[Mikael]

Originally Posted by saschia

Mikael I think you are mistaken, in the history of breeding of CSW, after the F3 generation most of the pairing was between CSW, not back to GSD (and there were actually also couple of pairings back to wolves Argo, Sarik and F1 Kazan). The "blood percentage" is indeed around 25% in all CSW, but of course due to rigorous selection the CSW do not behave as typical 25% wolf-content "hybrids" would.

Yes you are right I was wrong according to the US mathematical system the CsV are 3,12-4,68 % Wolf blood !!!

But I think you are wrong to , when mixing a F3 whit Wolf you are not at generation 4 (F4) you are back at generation 1 from Wolf (F1), but this Generation 1 (F1) has more Wolf blood than a normal F1 Hybrid.


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Author: Pavel, Translation: Mirkawolf
"The CzW is crossbreed of german shepherd and a carpatian wolf. Next generations after this crossbreeding have only codes F1-F4 (F1 is the first generation with 50% of wolf's blood, F2-F4 are just generations crosbreeded with german shepherd only). The finall generation is the 5th with less than 25% of wolf's blood, this generation is CzW. Simply is possible to say, that the CzW must have about 30% of wolf's blood. All other crossbreed are not CsV, but F1-F4 and this individuals are not part of FCI recognised breed."

I think the text by Pavel is correkt if you are back at F1 when crossing a F3 whit a Wolf again, and if crossing CsV whit CsV that are for example F4 there litter is also F4. or am I wrong ???

But I don´t understand how the Wolf blood can be as high as 25%-30% if the F1 is 50% Wolfblood = Wolf 100% X Dog 0% = 100/2=50% Wolfblood.

The US matematical system for Wolfblood works like this to, but than according to this system the CsV are to be only 3,12-4,68%.

PLEASE explain how they count out the CsV breed Wolf bood anybody !!!

This is how the US system works I think...

Wolf=100% Wolf Blood and Dog = 0% Wolf blood.
add together the Wolf blood percetage of each parent =100x0=100, then divide by two to get the Wolf blood of the litter, 100/2= 50% Wolf blood at generation 1 (F1).

So as I understand it must be like this...

Generation 1 (F1) = 50% Wolf blood
Generation 2 (F2) = 25% Wolf blood
Generation 3 (F3) = 12,5%Wolf blood
Generation 4 (F4) = 6,25% Wolf blood
Generation 5 (F5) = 3,12% Wolf blood CsV wery little Wolf Content Wolfdog.

Or if you mix a F1 whit Wolf like on Blood Line 4 the new F1 litter is 75% Wolf blood = High Contant Wolfdog.

Generation 1 (F1) = 75% Wolf blood
Generation 2 (F2) = 37,5% Wolf blood
Generation 3 (F3) = 18,75% Wolf blood
Generation 4 (F4) = 9,37% Wolf blood
Generation 5 (F5) = 4,68% Wolf blood CsV wery little Wolf Contant Wolfdog.

But the real problem according to me is that there are Clubs and gowernment compering the number of Wolf blood between CsV and AWD, when (we) aperantley do not count the same way in Europe and US. or are (we) and I´m missing something ???

Wery Best Regards / Mikael