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Forum: Breeding 28-09-2011, 05:58
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Posted By elf
Related question, I read the CSV is told to be...

Related question, I read the CSV is told to be BB, the arguments were:

1. No red CSV born (known...)
2. GSD used are not b carrier

About point 2., what is the range of certainty of this...
Forum: Breeding 27-09-2011, 14:39
Replies: 373
Views: 102,541
Posted By elf
What about using the B-Locus test on some dogs ?...

What about using the B-Locus test on some dogs ? http://www.genomia.cz/en/test/locus-b-dog/

...or on many CSV.
e.g., Daniela can you perform this test for low extra cost while checking for DM if...
Forum: Breeding 21-06-2011, 09:38
Replies: 373
Views: 102,541
Posted By elf
Well I start to feel a bit sorry to run this...

Well I start to feel a bit sorry to run this topic because there are a lot of deviations written here, let me remind the context:

- the french breeder has 3 red puppies born (she was in the past...
Forum: Breeding 09-06-2011, 09:18
Replies: 373
Views: 102,541
Posted By elf
CSV GSD origin

CSV GSD origin
Forum: Breeding 07-06-2011, 00:16
Replies: 373
Views: 102,541
Posted By elf
This Saarloos is Dvorak de Louba Tar...

This Saarloos is Dvorak de Louba Tar (https://www.wolfdog.org/dbase/d/19798). Not sterilized at the time of the picture as you can see here (had offspring in dec 2007):
...
Forum: Breeding 06-06-2011, 23:28
Replies: 373
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Posted By elf
I hesitated to put pictures, but lets go: ...

I hesitated to put pictures, but lets go:

http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tchecoslovaque.com/IMG/cw2.jpg

http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tchecoslovaque.com/IMG/cw3.jpg
Forum: Breeding 06-06-2011, 12:51
Replies: 373
Views: 102,541
Posted By elf
But this is not the point, the point is to know...

But this is not the point, the point is to know if the line is clean or not (blaming X or Y is another topic) and how to proceed for checks. In addition, mixing could occured without the breeder...
Forum: Breeding 06-06-2011, 11:45
Replies: 373
Views: 102,541
Posted By elf
An interesting part in the paper, the fact that...

An interesting part in the paper, the fact that the authors did not consider for "Grackle" case a de novo mutation possibility could show their thinking about the time scale of those kind of mutation...
Forum: Breeding 04-06-2011, 05:35
Replies: 373
Views: 102,541
Posted By elf
Post We know by experience in the breed (high...

We know by experience in the breed (high inbreeding level) that the probability have to be ultra low, IMHO in this case with all associated problems around, this should not be researched as first...
Forum: Breeding 02-06-2011, 09:47
Replies: 373
Views: 102,541
Posted By elf
The wolves pictures are interesting but as said...

The wolves pictures are interesting but as said this is very different, those wolves are not bb, whereas the red puppies (not a single but 3) the breeder had are bb (more pictures at the bottom MLS...
Forum: Breeding 01-06-2011, 20:32
Replies: 373
Views: 102,541
Posted By elf
Hmm, to my knowledge it's the same TYRP1...

Hmm, to my knowledge it's the same TYRP1 (http://omia.angis.org.au/retrieve.shtml?pid=2695), you know special breed cases always exist but I guess we can safely consider this valid for our breed.
Forum: Breeding 01-06-2011, 19:04
Replies: 373
Views: 102,541
Posted By elf
The agouti gene would control where the pigments...

The agouti gene would control where the pigments are disposited, the dilution one would transform black to blue (not black to red/liver) ; so here what we see is different, it's the red/liver from...
Forum: Breeding 01-06-2011, 16:10
Replies: 373
Views: 102,541
Posted By elf
Well, I did not write accusations but deductions,...

Well, I did not write accusations but deductions, the facts are:

- Thalia x Sibir gave some red puppies (Saarloos alike)
- DNA tests tells Thalia x Sibir are the parents
- From what I know both...
Forum: Breeding 30-05-2011, 14:26
Replies: 373
Views: 102,541
Posted By elf
Saarloos mixes by "Crying Wolf" kennel (CSV red colored)

One french breeder had the surprise to see red (Saarloos color alike) puppies in the litter Thalia Crying Wolf x Sibir Crying Wolf.

Ever happened to any other breeders ? (Send me an email if you...
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