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jennyw1 18-03-2008 23:50

Can i have a Cesko in a appartment?
 
I can give a home to a Ceskoslovensko vlajk were the dog not need to be alone the dog will be with me most of the time.
I walks for 3 hours at least /day and lives for the dog (and my cats) no children.

A little bit obedience training but i realy want this healty dog in the first place its importent helty body and mind!
For haiking in the nature and hard kondition training.

Have not found what i m searching for in other dogs until i herad aboute Wolfdogs and Cesko.

Have had Belgian shepherd and Am staffordshire terreier and a Germany sheepherd/Alaskan malamute.
I m educaded as a animal keeper so i can work in a zoo for example.

What du you think?Its my living i a appartment a problem?Must i have a house with a big back yard?

michaelundinaeichhorn 19-03-2008 08:07

Looking at my own dogs I can´t see any problem as long as the dog gets enough time outside with you. My dogs hate to be outside in the garden without us, they rather prefer to stay inside.

Ina

Mirkawolf 19-03-2008 09:08

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Originally Posted by jennyw1 (Bericht 127301)
What du you think?Its my living i a appartment a problem?Must i have a house with a big back yard?

No you don´t. I have two wolfdogs in appartement as well, and it´s o.k. We are both working and when we are not at home, the dogs sleep.

But you have to be prepared, that to get to this point (wolfdog happily sleeping at home), it takes months of training and a lot of patience.
CSW puppy is destructive beast, will chew on anything, break in anywhere, steal your socks, clothes, shoes, utensils and destroy them.. It will pick up the trash and drive you crazy. This will last from when you get the puppy till at least 6 months of age, the breaking and calming point is around 1 year (at least it was for us).
Having the dog outside, when you are not at home, is probably somewhat easier, especially if you have kennel where the dog can´t break anything.

CSW when alone, will howl, till it learns to be alone, so decide what your neighbours will think. Even if you say the dog would never be alone, you have to teach him to be able to stay alone. It is normal course of life that people go to cinema, shopping, work and the dog has to be o.k. with such events. "Alone" means also alone together with another dog or cat etc.

However, the big plus of having the wolfdog in appartement is that you actually spend more time together, the dog gets better socialised, gets more walks (people tend to be lazy, if the dog has garden) and generally has closer relationship with its master.

Generally, I know many people who have CSW in appartement and they do not have problems at all. It is important that the dog gets enough excersise outside - at least 2h walk every day, plus some small ones. Then it does not matter, if it spends rest of time in the appartement, or kennel or garden. For CSW matters most, if it can spend the time with you, no matter where.

You will probably get a lot of messages, where people will say it is cruel to have CSW in appartement or even impossible, however it is not true. Just because they never tried or never managed to teach their dog manners, it does not mean it cannot be done.

*Satu 19-03-2008 09:46

As I told you (email) everythng is possible but needs lots of work and lots of your time.

Satu

Vaiva 19-03-2008 10:39

Two grown ups and a wolfdog in a really small flat in the centre of Vilnius (capital of Lithuania). And no problems. I am sure my dog moves much more than some other ones, living in houses with back yards :roll:

jennyw1 19-03-2008 17:47

Thanks for the support and speaking from experience!
 
So much great comments to my question i think a can give a Cesko a good home and most of all love, and activity!

And there are a lot of dogs out there that are stock in the backyard and the owners are lazy to walk the dog...but Cesko does not accept that without making some noise! Thats a good dog to me!

Big hug to all nice wolf dogs lovers!

/ Jenny

Vaiva 19-03-2008 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennyw1 (Bericht 127423)
So much great comments to my question i think a can give a Cesko a good home and most of all love, and activity!

And there are a lot of dogs out there that are stock in the backyard and the owners are lazy to walk the dog...but Cesko does not accept that without making some noise! Thats a good dog to me!

Big hug to all nice wolf dogs lovers!

/ Jenny

Great attitude in my opinion. Lazy master is the worst thing, that can happen to a wolfdog ;-)

wolfin 19-03-2008 22:17

me dogs and me litters liwing only in house :)
Brukne is me pupps and others me pupps living on house, wheil this is family member, not only dog :)

and not have problems- yes, wolfdog is wolfdog, and demolation, barking or not is easy in house, but hes charakter "all thime with me family" make hem very good companion and house dog :)

Vaiva 20-03-2008 08:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfin (Bericht 127518)
me dogs and me litters liwing only in house :)
Brukne is me pupps and others me pupps living on house, wheil this is family member, not only dog :)

and not have problems- yes, wolfdog is wolfdog, and demolation, barking or not is easy in house, but hes charakter "all thime with me family" make hem very good companion and house dog :)

I am sure wolfin ment "home", not "house" ;-)

jennyw1 20-03-2008 09:26

How aboute noisy dogs?
 
I have had one comment about Wolf dog is to noisy in a apartment and i listen to that clearly i just want to know if its a problem many have with there Wolf dog.
For example Siberian Husky are also a noisy dog but the often make noise when they are alone at home because the are missing they pack member...and thats not right to leave a dog like that of course you must have a way out of that problem before you even get a dog.

*Satu 20-03-2008 09:37

Wolfdogs can open doors and logs also. :lol:

Mirkawolf 20-03-2008 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Satu (Bericht 127563)
Wolfdogs can open doors and logs also. :lol:

Mine can also open drawers and fridge and freezer. And I did not teach them how to do that! :shock:

But yes, it is normal if the puppy when left alone will howl. It has to be taught to stay alone without crying and howling. It takes some time, but it is possible.

freewild 23-03-2008 19:56

hi

at this moment i live with furcas on appartment but there are 5 month had live on a home with garden

actually i live with my wolfdog with good condition

all the evenning i walk 1 hours all the day when i came back as my job we walk and footing since 2 hours
and the week-end working obediance and tracking that's only on this condition as we can live in appartment without any destroyed :twisted:

as soon i will live in 1000m² as ground with house
in fact he wolf dog is accustomed easily
in fact it not realy any important the wolf dog as need family and sport , trainning to have a good dog in the home ;)

farena 24-03-2008 19:15

Answer
 
Hello,

Although people tell you it´s good or bad having a wolfdog in an apartament you have to do what you want. I agree with another person that maybe the dog living in a house with a lot of place to run makes him not happy. I have a wolfdog and live in a house. During the week he does not go out for a walk, because as I have a baby I can´t take both of them for a walk, my dog is a little bit agressive with other dogs. But two weekends at month we go out and my partner takes him to run with his motorbike, the dog has a good time, he enjoys a lot running before the motorbike.

I supposse that if we would live in a flat we doesn´t have a dog, now that we have a baby. Because it´s too routinous taking the dog out three times at day. It´s my opinion.

jennyw1 27-03-2008 21:27

Thanks
 
Thanks again for all answer on my question!

I have decide to move to a bigger place with a out door place with some grass to the dog not a big yard but the dog can go out if he want to.
I m looking right now for that place and i hope i can move this year.

I hope everyone have a nice time with there wolf dogs!

farena 28-03-2008 21:14

Hello
 
Hello,

I´m happy for you and for your dog because you have taken the decission of moving to a bigger place. Nevertheless if you continued living in a flat it´s not bad for your dog, the question is if you love him or not. That´s all.


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