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Hi.
The list of dogs with certificate show a lot of "codes" like ZM, ZVV 1, ZVV
2, ZOP, ZUP, ZV1 etc.
What is the meaning of each code, anyone please :-)

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Per Olav

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Hello,

I would have to write here regulations of every certificate but I try to
explain it simply. First of all. The most easiest is the ZOP exam which
includes parts of very simple obedience (like waking with the dog on and
without leash, sit-down and etc.). ZOP is exactly the same like internation
rescue exam - RESCUE DOG SUITABILITY Test (RH-E) but without tracking. The
ZV1 (or VZ1) is a test (not a real certificate) for rescue dogs in Czech
Republic and it's endurance test (the owner on the bike and the dog have to
cover a distance of 20km within about 2h). The other certificates, that is:
ZM, ZVV1, ZVV2, ZPU1 and ZPU2 include obedience and already some parts of
protection work and tracking work. The easiest among these are ZPU1 (by ZPU1
you don't have real protection work but just guarding of owner's object or
simply tracking - you can choose one of those two tests) and ZM. The most
advanced are ZVV exams and could be compared to international IPO or SchH
exams but have some slight differences (for example you may use both type of
commands such as: voice and optical commands, in IPO and SchH you may use
voice OR optical commands). I would say that ZVV are a little bit easier
than the international exams because they are not judges so severe as the
international ones. But to simplify anything you could say that ZVV1 is like
IPO1 and ZVV3 like IPO3.

Greetings,
Przemek

Dogs with certificate
 

I don't agree with you. In my opinion ZVV2 and especially ZVV3 is MORE
difficult then IPO3 or SchH3.
Eva

Dogs with certificate
 

Hello Eva,

Comparing the regulations of ZVV3 and IPO3 the differences are minimal but
the greatest differences, I think, are in the method how specific parts of
the exam are being carred out and are being judged. You can show the dog
every command with hands and also say the command during ZVV3 (it would
result in penalty point in IPO3). You cannnot give commands to the dog when
changing direction during IPO and SchH (it's acceptable for ZVV). And also
the judges during ZVV, as I observed, do not apply such big attention as IPO
judges to the principle that every command should be executed with
happiness. There is ever a non-official regulation in IPO that the dog can
maximaly get 90 points of 100 possible for obedience part if all parts were
made 100%correctly but were done without visible satisfaction of the dog.

Other example is the tracking part: sure the track is longer and older for
ZVV3 than for IPO3 (about 1000m and 3h old for ZVV3 and 600m and 1h old for
IPO3) but during IPO3 it is required that the dog goes all the time with its
nose by the ground and every single raising of the head can be assessed with
penalty point. In ZVV the more important is the result of the whole tracking
not the style (I don't say the style is unimportant but it's sure less
important than in IPO).

Simple said ZVV checks how the dog mastered all parts of exam and IPO
required additionaly that all parts should be made showily. From the dog
handler IPO requires a 100% self-control (without any unnecessary moves).

Greetings,
Przemek

Dogs with certificate
 

One important thing: this year FCI approved the exams prepared by the
Slovakian Wolfdog Club specially for CzW. I mean here endurance tests SV1
(40 km), SV2 (70 km) and SV3 (100km).

Greetings,
Margo

Dogs with certificate
 

Hi, all,

I join Per Olav voice and request the more complete answer, even if it's a long one!!! 8-)

We, in France, are on the way to propose tests for CsV, we NEED your help, czech and slovak people, in order to be
compliant with YOUR regulation!

Thanks in advance

Philippe

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Hi Przemek,
so once again.

It's your mistake, becouse in ZVV3 (and in ZVV2 too)is in obedience mostly
allowed only one command (defined in rule). IPO is "theater" for people (
precise, you must know how many steps you go, dog must be happy...). Not for
CSW, I think :0). I never saw so happy obedience in CSW.
Czech national exam are diffucult. And have you ever seen some ZVV2 or ZVV3? For me dog with ZVV2 is better than dog with IPO 4 :0).
Eva

Dogs with certificate
 

You can seen it here:
http://www.wolfdog.org/php/modules.p...e=certificates

Greetings,
Margo

Dogs with certificate
 

There is a part in ZVV regulation: "Povelovou techniku uvádí zkusební rád u
kazdého cviku zkratkou Z=povel zvukový, P=povel posunkový. Pokud zkusební
rád uvádí obe zkratky, muze psovod pouzít jednoho z povelu nebo oba
soucastne." and yes in obedience and tracking part you may use only voice
commands but the whole protection work may be done with voice and optical
commands together (in IPO you use only voice OR optical commands).

Here is a comparision of some parts of IPO2 and ZVV2:

- In IPO2 every exercise is more complex and not executing a small part of
every exercise have big influence on the number of points. In ZVV2 every
"simple" exercise is divided in smaller one and every such part is rated
separately. For example: sit-down-up, barking, "come here" command and etc.
are in ZVV2 separate commands and in IPO are parts of bigger exercises (for
sit-down-up in ZVV you'll get 10 points, in IPO you'll get much less for the
same action because it's just part of bigger exercise which is also rated
with 10 points).

- In IPO2 you have some additional exercises and your dog should do also:
* walking on the leash
* leaving the dog with coming back (in ZVV2 is only leaving and the owner
comes back)
* aport through A-hrudle (in ZVV2 the dog goes through the hrudle but
don't have to aport)
* simple aport of 1kg object
* sending away with lying down (at distance) - in ZVV2 you just have
sending away and coming back

Yes, and that's why I said it is much harder than ZVV. We are not talking if
IPO is natural for the dogs but whether it's harder or not than ZVV. It is a
kind of sport and you have to accept the rules. This "theater" means that
both the dog and owner have to do the commands perfectly and some of them
have to be made "unnaturaly" and it does afford more from the owner and dog
because of it. And don't forget the german precision ;))) There are exact
arrangements how every exercise should be judged and there is no place for
different interpretation of the judge. The ZVV leaves the judge much more
room for his own judgement.

Don't worry. Next time I will show you a video casette with one of such
dogs. Do you really think that the dogs are really happy during the
training. It is just a question of a very, very hard work of the dog and the
owner.

You're right. I never saw the exam. I just saw dogs with such certificates.

OK. But how would you explain this years results from ZVV1 and IPO1
competition in Roudnice and Lazne Belohrad. According to the points ALL dogs
which started in IPO1 competition wouldn't pass the exam because none of
them passed the 70 points mark (and the same dogs got enough points on the
ZVV1 competition in Roudnice to pass it). And further with one exception all
of them would have serious problems with passing obedience in IPO1. And I
don't think it's a problem of CSW but of the owners who focus on the
free-style of the ZVV regulation and not on precision required by IPO...


Greetings,
Przemek

Dogs with certificate
 

Hi Przemek,
It's nice that twoo theorists discused here :shock:
So, I think ZVV is more useful for practice than IPO.That's all.

The top works dogs - BS, GS - as I know, know only training and their
kennels. Sad. But it's another part of book......not about CSW.

Very simply :0). How many czech's CSW train IPO ??? For me IPO competition
in LB was big tragicomedy. Dog handlers ( not all) read rules of IPO in the
evening before competition......
And differences in obedience between IPO1 -3 are very small. In ZVV are some
special exercise- not so easy.

Finally, I prefered czech exam ( I'm nationalist :0)). And the last - how
many CSW have IPO3 or ZVV 2 (3)? It's reality.
CSW are working dogs, but you must have great patience and use your brain.
Compar CSW and GS working ability....:0) GS or BS are much more better for
sport.
That's all. I'm only theorist but realist.
have a nice day
Eva

Dogs with certificate
 

Hi Eva,

Sorry, am not sure, that somebody, who dont participate on this competition have right to valuate it. This owners,
which shows self in LB makes a regulary training with own wolfdogs. And they want to show, how far just are. Its
little bit unpolite to make fun from this people (please, dont understand it so, that I wrote it, because I was a
participant). Competition is for me (and as I know for majority of participants in LB) the chance to show, what my
wolfdog are trained. Never will be perfect, but I think, that everybody by this competition shows the effort to be
good with own wolfdogs and every wolfdog shows by some parts of competition, that CsW can reach the best position.
And, that some people read the IPO rules first before competition ? Its absolutely true and you can see from it,
that nobody understand the IPO competition like a question of life or death. Simply our dogs doing something are on
some level of training and basicaly is doesnt matter, according which rules is the competition. Sure, we can discuss
about it, if the competition make like a officialy or only like a internal Club competition. But its just another
thema.
Please dont make fun from the people, which something doing with own wolfdogs and have so much courage, that
although are not perfect, want to show something. Critique outside the competition ring is very simple and easy ...

am glad, that I hear from you, that CsW is working dog. Can you explaine us, please, your opinion, that in Slovakia
today can be in working class in show a dog with 40 km run only, without any obedience or other working knowledges ?
And that this trend is pushing up in Czech club as well ?

Thanks
Pavel

Dogs with certificate
 

Hi Pavel
I was awaited yours reaction. For me it's quite difficult explain you my
opinions in english. But I try it.Shortly, becouse I must do some more
important things.
IPO in LB was tragicomedy when we compered it with Roudnice. It's clear.

I never said CSW isn't working dog. But the question is what you mean
working.......it's impossible compared GS and CSW. If I want really working
dog (who is quite easy to train - of course, it isn't so easy and if I want
be really good in dog-sport) I NEVER BUY CSW !!!!!!


It's your fight. My opinion is that in working class must be dog's who have
exam which consist of obedience,tracking and defence. It's my opinion.
But I mean for champions titul is ZOP or VZ sufficient - and of course CAC,
but not only 2, like today.
I can imagine yours reaction - yours citation of rules etc.
But for me working class and champions titul are different things.

My dog have only ZOP and VZ1 now - and were in Nitra in working
class......but he can go without leash :0).
sorry, my english it's not so good and discussionswith Pavel are neverending
stories.

Eva

Dogs with certificate
 

Hi Ann,

I dont have yet the rules, but its only run 40 km and the owner can runnig as well :o), but mostly used bicycle. And
its really only run, nothing more.

Pavel

Dogs with certificate
 

Hi Eva,

Who dont prefere quality ? But quality grows always only from quantity. Its reason, why we organisate more different
competitions. Its doesnt matter, that comming there wolfdogs, which can only sit down and walking by leg. Its a
motivation for the people to continue the training and they can see, that is more beginners similary. If we will
organisate only competitions like Championchip in Roudnice, then comming very less people there (in Roudnice were 6
wolfdogs only). Compare with last ZOP/ZPU1 competition in Svetla, where participated 14 wolfdogs. Of course not all
were perfect, some wolfdogs shows the absolutely basic only, but everybody get the motivation for the training and
am sure, that next time will be just better results.
This is not problem only in Czech republic, but generaly. I other countries is the problem more deep, because there
is number of wolfdogs, which regulary trained, very very less. We all must care about working gens of our dogs. And
quality grows automaticaly from big amount of working dogs.

Sorry, its not fight. My opinion is only, that "working dog" is not only dog, which can run 40 km.

Here first please one notice for foreigners - ZOP is obedience exam and VZ is run 20 km. Am not sure, if only basicaly obedience exam enought, but am sure, that only 20 km run is absolutely unsufficient.

We have a working race and from this thing come everything other. I mean, that if we will keep about working gens of
our wolfdogs, then champion cant be dog, which is beautifull only and can run 20 or 40 km (and basicaly this
distance can running most wolfdogs). Same is it with the breed. I mean, that we would breeding only on dogs, which
show the working talent (is discussion how). But working talent is not endurance only.

Eva is right in this thema is with me mostly neverending discussion, but believe me, when I see the wolfdogs, they
are absolutely uncontrolable, shy or agressive (shyness and agressivity is in 99% same reason), then just cry. And
we can see, how on this wolfdogs some people breeding and in this way and sense "destroying" or beautifull race,
which we all loving so much.

Howg :mrgreen:
Pavel

Dogs with certificate
 

Hi,


OK. But first of all who said that the dogs with 40 km run are working dogs?
:))) It just has been said that the test should be enough for a dog which
would like to have Show Champion title (want to be a Beauty Champion). For
people wanting to have Working Champion there are other types of activities:
international IPO competitions where after getting enough number of CACIT
certificates the dog gets Internation Working Champion title ;))))

OK Pavel. But look at the THEORETICAL scenario: we have a nice working dog
with ZVV3 but is total parody of the breed standard in respect to exterieur.
Should such dog be a show champion because of his working abilities? I don't
think so because it's against the rule of being a "Beauty" champion.

And if you require from Show Champion that he should be beautiful and have
working title then it's like searching for a needle in a haystack.

OK. But that's what bonitations are for. On the bonitation very shy or
agressive dogs should be excluded from breeding. The shows in Czech
Republic are not required for receiving breeding permission (like in our
country or in Germany) and should be considered as beauty contests.

Greetings,
Przemek

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Hi Eva,

If I would compare a "show quality" GSD and CzW then the CzW are much better
;)))) And the other thing. I would not be such pessimist. Look at the
population of CzW and GSD. There are, I think, about 2000-3000 CzWs alive on
the whole world and the number of GSD can be counted in hundreds of
thousands and if you would compare the percentage of GSDs having IPO3
certificate with percentage of CzWs with IPO3 then I'm not sure which breed
would have the better result. There is currently one CzW (Hasso) with
IPO3... so the percentage would be 1/3000 = 0,033% .... and what it is for
GSDs????

What I am driving at? The number of CzWs is way to small to talk about it's
usefulness for sports. The CzWs are just waiting for people who will now how
to train them and will be able to reach their maximum abilities. For example
the GSD owners community associates many working judges and trainers who
have years of experience in training. How many such peoples are working with
CzWs?

And another example why we should not talk about CzW not useful for sports -
Irma z Litavske kotliny. Who would say that CzW can be the agility champion?
Nobody tried so there was none and then after few years Marta started to
train with Irma and two years ago she was on the 2nd place in the Polish
national agility championship (so she was Polish Agility Vice-champion) and
was member of Polish representation in Helsinki on World Agility
Championship. Earlier the people would say: no, CzW is not good for
agility...

Greetings,
Przemek

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Hi Pavel,
On distance I follow this interesting discussion. And I agree with your
opinion.
That's also why I asked before if you can see a difference in CsW type
between "working" and "show" dogs (as you unfortunately can see in other
breeds)

It's a pity that your country is to far away for me, so I can't follow a
training there. But in future I'll sure come for some competitions!
For now I train basical obedience and search for all kind of other ways to
work with my dog. But it is difficult to find it and certainly when you want
to train with other CSw!
I think it is always better to dó something with your dogs (even when it
isn't a official training and even when you don't want to go to
competitions) So we start also training with friends with other dogs for
waterworking and search people. (and our Csw likes it!) And when there is a
little bit of snow we also start with pulling sledge. On this moment there
is no snow here, but our dog alreaydy got used to a harness!
So I think it's also possible to work when you can't find a special
training.

By the way, it strikes me that a lot of trainers in Holland have the same
tedious opinion about a Csw: "That isn't a workingdog. You can't train
them, spare the trouble to try it." But I notice what you do with these dogs
in your country. And I am "self-willed" and like to prove the opposite!
Mijke

Dogs with certificate
 

Hi Przemek, now I absollutly agree with you. Thanks for yours answer. eva

Dogs with certificate
 

Hi,
only shortly because I dont will be "neverending" :o).

If your dog is in working class in show isnt working dog ?

And its a principial question. Its possible two ways. First is, that we
want to have much champions as possible and then we make a very weak
rules. Or we will have only the absolutely best of the best for champion
and then we make rules according this philosophy. Eva wrote about the
quality and quantity. And this is exact the case, where is important the
really quality. Champion must be the best of the bests, not only nice,
but the wolfdog with all best (exteriör, character, working gens etc.).
Most people will always push to make a weak rules for champion, because
want to reach it with many own dogs, but I think, that this is
absolutely devalvation of this title (similary like is just absolutely
degraded valuation "excellent" on shows).

No, not agree. Show is show and its doesnt matter, if is coupled with
breeding rules or not. According the FCI rules must be every show same.
For working races must be the best dogs universal and not only beautiful.

Pavel

Dogs with certificate
 

Hi to all

what is working genes ? Genetic is one of my favourite topic :0). How can
you recognise dog with or without "working genes" :0))))).

Dogs with certificate
 

Hi,

Its the same by CsW. Our race was created in first row for work and
first later come the exterior selection. But today can see, that
exterior selection is the first and the working possibility is
absolutely background only for breed.

Maybe I wrote it with wrong terms. "Working gens" I mean "working
possibility" (in Czech we say "gens" or "cells" :o) ). And how to
recognise it ? No other system yet, then make a working exam. It
function exactly so by military by creation of race. Dogs without exam
dont come to breed. Because army need 100% really working dogs only.

Pavel

Dogs with certificate
 

Hi,

I hope that we don't need working titles to our CsVs in order to prevent
banning the breed in any countiers. There are so many breeds that are not so
called working dogs and they aren't on any banned lists, because they are
not aggressive. However, many so called working dog breeds are on those
lists (take for example the Rottweiler), because these breeds are
successfully bread to work as a weapon ... and then when these dogs are in
the wrong hands accidents happen.

What I really like in CsVs are not the GSD characteristics, but the other
ones. They are wonderful and very clever dogs, much more interesting than
any "normal" working dog breed. And every real dog freak can still learn
from them about dog's behaviour. I am much more afraid that the CsV ends up
to be just another GSD.

With this I didn't mean that we should not work with CsVs. My dogs can all
basic obedience and my male dog is pretty good at tracking. But I would not
like to train my dogs to be the same (sorry to say) stupid robots that so
many other dogs are. I would not be proud of the dog that only wants to
please me without using its own head. What I really respect in my dogs are
these qualities that they for example don't want to play with some stupid
ball all the time - they need more intelligent games. Too many GSDs I know
are only running after a ball or defending their toys from other dogs or
from other people while outside and they can't or don't want to play with
other dogs anymore. Would it be sad if CsVs turned out to be like that - to
me it would mean a total loss of their intelligence.

What comes to running 20 or 40 km, I think it is a good idea. How many
breeds are able to do this now a days? At least it would show that CsVs
still can run and are healthy.

What I really love in my dogs is that they are not overly anything (not
overly protective, not too keen on playing and so on) but so extremely
many-sided and clever.

Minna

Dogs with certificate
 

Short reply to you An,

just buy a GSD (or maybe you own already) and you will be happy. I have own
some GSDs and worked with many (my dogs had titles too) and I certainly
would not like to see CsVs to turn out to be just like they are. I am
absolutely sure that my CsV are less dangerous to people (especially to
children) than my GSDs were, because my CsVs are so clever that they know
that a child or a jogger is not a prey animal ...

If I would like my dog to get a herding title I would buy a border collie. I
happen to know many border collies too: they are herding all the time, they
also do this with children, they are extreme. And that is what I like in
CsVs that they are not yet bred into any special direction.

Minna

The CSV a working breed - how do I understand the codes
 

Hi to you all.

My own homepage ( http://www.wolfdog.no ) is slowly progressing but still it's a long way to go. This time I like to show my Norwegian visitors the versatility of the CSV as a working breed.

On the "Dogs with certificate" pages of the wolfdog.org site are listed a lot of codes ( ZUV, ZOP etc) which are not easily understood by the visitors, at least not by those visiting my page :?

I wonder if it's possible to make a short English translation of the codes and a summary of the test referring to the codes?

A blessed Eastern holliday to all of you.
--
Per Olav

The CSV a working breed - how do I understand the codes
 

Please read the headline as "The CSV as a working breed - how do I understand the codes"
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Per Olav

RE: The CSV a working breed - how do I understand the codes
 

Hello Per Olav ;)

Here are some links that migth help you a littlebit:

http://www.nwk9.com/working_titles.htm#title

http://www.nwk9.com/pedigree_czech.htm


Best regards,
Steffen

RE: The CSV a working breed - how do I understand the codes
 

Thanks, my friend. It helped a bit, but still missing some of the abbreviations used on the "certificate" page.
--
Per Olav

Czech Exams
 

Hello Community,

can you please explain to me, what does the dog have to do at following Czech exams:

ZPU 2,
ZM
ZVV1 - 3?

Do you have to pass the previous exam to go to the next step e.g. ZOP, ZPU 1, ZPU 2 and then? Or can you just jump in?

Is there any source where it is translated into English or German?

Thanks in advance for your help and best regards,

Kerstin

Unfortunatelly, there is no translation for these exams. However, to be able to apply for test ZPU 2, you have to first pass test ZOP and then ZPU1.
Also, for applying to ZVV1-3, you have to first pass ZM.

ZOP is more or less simple obedience (on leash, off leash and in group), and with going higher (ZPU1 - ZPU2) the difficulty graduates plus tracking or defence is added to the obedience. ZOP in fact means "zakladni ovladatelnost psa" which is basic controllability of the dog.

ZM is "zakladni minimum" which is "basic minimum". This is test, where all three important parts are tested - tracking, obedience, defence. Going higher (ZVV1-3) the test gets more diffiult, like the track is longer and older, more complicated, the defence is harder and more is asked in obedience etc.

Thanks Mirka,

I have some more questions: Can you compare ZM/ZVV with SchH/IPO exams with similar exercises or whats different?

What are the differences in the obedience part ZPU1 to ZPU2? On ZPU2 can you choose tracking & obedience only or has to dog to do defence work?

Regards,
Kerstin

No I can´t. This is better explained by somebody, who has "hands on" experience with these tests. I can look at the tests and what is required on them, but I cannot compare them and explain the differences. Theoretically, I believe they are equally difficult, however I find IPO more difficult for CSWs, because IPO is a lot about the speed in which the dog performs, accuracy etc. The Czech exam system (ZM, ZVV) is more about the real use of the dog.

All obedience in ZPU1 is done off leash. ZPU1 is still divided into individual obedience with the dog and then obedience in the group. Plus the excersise of the choise - either guarding the object, or tracking.

ZPU2 consists of tracking, obedience and defence. No choices are given, to absolve it, you must do all three things. ZPU2 is close to what is required on ZM or ZVV1. There is no group obedience or other group exercises in ZPU2.

The obedience of ZPU2 is similar to ZPU 1, but harder. For example, in ZPU1 you have simple aport of object. In ZPU2, the dog has to do the aport jumping over obstacle there and back. In ZPU1, the dog has to bark in "heel" position. In ZPU2, the dog must sit one step in front of you and bark etc.

So far not...but we plan to translate them.. Not the whole regulations but at last the list of exercises for every exam... I hope it will help... :)
I hope only that the winter this year will be strong and there will be no more CzW meetings... (it means we will have enough free time to work on it 8))

If it can help you Andrea Pecharova (Foresta Incantata Kennel)translated something in italian e maybe exist one translator that can translate from italian to german.
You can read it on :
Foresta Incantata's Website
http://www.forestaincantata.it/Brevetti.htm

or there (my web site,only in italian)
http://www.pilamaya.it/lavoro.htm

and many thanks to Andrea that has permitted me to understand something in this czech exams :roll:

That is a great overview of most exams. I am still thinking about whats harder to understand? Czech or Italian? Maybe/Hopefully sooner or later somebody is able to translate it in English or even better in German :lol: I hope. And I hope it is a human....

The Google language translator tried hard, but it did not make any sense. No dog people programming this :twisted:

But thanks again, I think I know someone I can ask then, when I need to find out something.

Regards,
Kerstin

I try translate two of then, if have something wrong, please correct that.
When I have more time if these was fine I can try translate more ;)


Criteria for the ZM test – basic licence
1.Minimal age 12 months
2.For the participation isn’t needed another title.
3.The commands mark on the regulament are:
Z = Acoustic
P = Manual
If the regulation mark the two, can be used one of then ( or acustic or manual) or the two ( acustic and manual)
Excercices and maximun score:

Track
(max. 50 points)
The dog must follow one track previously traced from his handler, with 150 – 200 steps, in right angle and 15 minuts old, the end is indicated with one personal object of the handler, the limit time to do the track is 5 minuts.

Obedience
a) Callback (possiblein the two ways) – Max 10 points
b) Lead with leash – Max 10 points
c) Sit and down with leash – max 10 points
d) Retrieving ( handler’s object) – max 10 points
e) Down out leash ( distance 15 steps) – max 10 points

Defense
a)Searching (30x40 on the land or 80x100 steps on the fiels, two hiding place) – max 10 points
b) Helper signalization – max 10 points
c) Defence of the handler – max 10 points
d) Helpler catch ( 25 steps) – max 10 points
e) Dog’s resistence – max 10 points



Criteria for ZVV1 test - Working universal test for dogs first degree
1) Minimal age 14 months
2) For the participation isn’t needed another title.
3)The commands mark on the regulament are:
Z = Acoustic
P = Manual
If the regulation mark the two, can be used one of then ( or acustic or manual) or the two ( acustic and manual)

Maximum scores and exsercices:
The maximun score is 300 points, minimal 210 points with the condition that in every discipline have been received up to 70 points.

Track
(max. 100 points)
The dog must follow one track previously traced from his handler, with 350 – 400 steps, with 2 right angle and 30 minuts old, the first object is in the track and the second at the end, the limit time to do the track is 10 minuts.

Obedience
a) Callback at foot and in motion – Max 10 points
b) Lead with leash – Max 10 points
c) Sit, down and at foot with leash ( at foot) – max 10 points
d) Stay down in motion – max 10 points
e) Bark ( at foot and with leash) - max. 10 points
f) Retrieving - max. 10 points
g) Jump ( 100cm) - Max. 10 points
h) Jump climbed (180 cm, in one direction) - max. 10 points
i) Low beam ( one direction) - max. 10 points
J) Free down (25 foots of distance) - max 10 points

Defence
a) Finding the helpler:
- Searching at land ( 40x50 steps with four hiding places) - max 10 points
- Signalling the helpler - max 10 points
b) Helpler aprehension (helpler catch)
- Searching the helpler - max. 10 points
- Helpler interrogation - max. 10 points
c) Handler defence
- Unexpected helpler attack during interrogation - max. 15 points
- Control of the dog (leave) - max. 5 points
d) independent dog job
- Helpler aprehension ( 50 steps) - max. 15 points
Control of the dog (leave) - max 5 points
e) Dog's resistence
- attack the dog with 2 blows - max 15 points
- Control of the dog (leave) - max 5 points

:bussi Thank you! I really appriciate your work!

Now we know, what´s on next and we will not be confused.

Great Great Great.

And I am patiently waiting for the others :wink:

Best regards,
Kerstin

One correction, in the ZVV1 defence I write "(out leash)" when the correct is "(leave)" for the dog stop bite, as I put in the ZVV2 and ZVV3

Criteria for ZVV2 test - Working universal test for dogs second degree
1) Minimal age 16 months
2) For the participation is needed the title ZVV1.
3)The commands mark on the regulament are:
Z = Acoustic
P = Manual
If the regulation mark the two, can be used one of then ( or acustic or manual) or the two ( acustic and manual)

Maximum scores and exercices:

Track
(max. 100 points)
The dog must follow one track previously traced from a stranger, with 500 – 600 steps, with 2 right angle and 1 hour old, the first object is in the track and the second at the end, the limit time to do the track is 15 minuts.

Obedience
a) Lead without leash - max 10 points
b) Sit, down and at foot ( one step front the handler) - max 10 points
c) At foot and stay in motion - max 10 points
d) Bark (at foot, one step front of the handler) - max 10 points
e) Crawl for 10 steps with the handler - max 10 points
f) Retrieving with obstacle ( 100cm, 1kg object) - max 10 points
g) Jump high beam ( one direction) - max. 10 points
h) Go ahead (30 steps) - max. 10 points
i) Callback ( of front) - max. 10 points
j) Free down (50 foots of distance) - max 10 points

Defence
a) Finding the helpler:
- Searching at land ( 60x100 steps with six hiding places) - max 10 points
- Signalling the helpler - max 10 points
b) Helpler aprehension (helpler catch)
- Searching and interrogation of the helpler - max. 10 points
- Helpler accompanyment ( 20 steps) - max. 10 points
c) Handler defence:
- Unexpected helpler attack during the search - max. 15 points
- Control of the dog (leave) - max. 5 points
d) independent dog job:
- Helpler aprehension (100 steps) - max. 15 points
Control of the dog (leave) - max 5 points
e) Dog's resistence:
- attack the dog with 2 blows - max 15 points
- Control of the dog (leaves) - max 5 points


Criteria for ZVV3 test - Working universal test for dogs third degree
1) Minimal age 18 months
2) For the participation is needed the title ZVV2.
3)The commands mark on the regulament are:
Z = Acoustic
P = Manual
If the regulation mark the two, can be used one of then ( or acustic or manual) or the two ( acustic and manual)

Maximum scores and exercices:

Track
(max. 100 points)
The dog must follow one track previously traced from a stranger, with 1000 – 1200 steps, with 2 right angle and 3 hour old, the first object is in the track and the second at the end, the limit time to do the track is 20 minuts.

Obedience
a) Lead without leash - max 10 points
b) Sit, down and at foot ( 20 step front the handler) - max 10 points
c) At foot and stay in motion - max 10 points
d) Bark (at foot, 20 step front of the handler) - max 10 points
e) Crawl for 10 steps - max 10 points
f) Retrieving with obstacle climbing ( 1,80m, 1kg object of the organizer) - max 10 points
g) Jump high beam ( both direction) - max. 10 points
h) Go ahead (2 times 50 steps) - max. 10 points
i) Callback ( of front) 2 times - max. 10 points
j) Free down (50 foots of distance handler hidde) - max 10 points

Defence
a) Finding the helpler:
- Searching at land ( 80x100 steps with six hiding places) - max 10 points
- Signalling the helpler barking - max 10 points
b) Helpler aprehension (helpler catch)
- Searching, interrogation and accompanyment of the helpler (20 + 10 steps) - max. 10 points
- Helpler guard ( 2 + 1 min) - max. 10 points
c) Handler defence:
- Unexpected helpler attack during the accompanyment - max. 15 points
- Control of the dog (leave) - max. 5 points
d) independent dog job:
- Helpler aprehension (150 steps) - max. 15 points
- Control of the dog (leave) - max 5 points
e) Dog's resistence:
- That's already with the exercice of the helpler aprehension ( in the counterattack with 2 blows) - max 20 points

ZOP - Control of the dog licence

Criteria for the licence

1. Minimal age 10 months
2. For the participation isn't needed another title
3. The comands tecnique for the excercises are mark on the memorandu in the exercise description. Generally can be used vocal and manual, or the two in same time.


Licence sumary:

I. Basic

1. Callback - can be chosen one of these two varying:
a) sit in front of the handler ( 10 points)
b) in motion at foot
2) lead with leash ( 10 points)
3) Lead wothout leash ( 10 points)
4) Sit - down - at foot ( with leash 10 points)
5) Stay ( 30 steps distance) ( 10 points)

II. Exercices in group and special exercises

Numer of dogs in the group -> 3-5
The group composition comes checked from the licence responsible with the agrement of the judge

1. lead with lesh in group ( 10 points)
2. Sit - down - at foot in group ( with leash) ( 10 points)
3. Stay in the down position in group ( 30 step distance, 2 min time) ( 10 points)
4. transport of the dog with the arm by the hendler and by one stranger (5 meter + 5 meters, dog with muzzle) ( 10 points)
5. passage on land with strange material with one stop ( 10 points)

Pass in land with strange material must be something like that:
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3907/49798105wn2.jpg


Total 100 points

The minimal needed is 70 points.


ZPU1 - Job licence first degree

Criteria for the test ZPU 1
1) Minimal age 12 months
2) for the participation is needed the ZOP licence
3) Can be used vocal or manual for the commands, also the two at same time.

Exercises and maximun score

I. Basic

1) Callback - can be chosen one of these two varying: (10 points)
a) Sit in front of the handler
b) in motion at foot of the handler
2) Lead without leash ( 10 points)
3) Sit - Down - at foot ( without leash) (10 points)
4) Bark ( sit at foot without leash) ( 10 points)
5) Retrieving ( handler's object) (10 points)
6) Jump (one direction, without leash, dog with handler) (10 points)
7) Jump climbimg ( obstacle type A, one direction without leash, dog with the handler) (10 points)
8) free down ( 30 steps distance, hiden handler) ( 10 points)
9) Exercises for choose: ( 20 points)
-a) Protect handler's object
-b) Track: of handler, long 100m, 1x right angle, 2 objects
Total: max 100 points, min 70 points

II. Group excercises and special exercises
Number of dogs in the group: 3 - 5.
The size and consistency of the group is only the judge who decides.

1) lead in group without leash ( 10 points)
2) Sit - Down - At foot ( without leash) ( 10 points)
3) Down in motion (10 points)
4) Passage on land with strange material in group ( with leash) (10 points)
5) Indifference to unexpected sound ( 10 points)

Total: max 50 points, min 35 points

Total points for the both test part:
Max 150 points, min 105 points

ZPU2 - Job licence second degree

Criteria for the test ZPU 2
1) Minimal age 12 months
2) for the participation is needed the ZPU1 licence
3) Can be used vocal commands ( exept for the go ahead where is possible use manual), in the track and defence both can be used.

Exercises and maximun score

I. Track

15 min old, of a stranger, long 300m, 2x right angle, 2 object (max 100 points, min 70 points)

II. Obedience

1) Callback front of handler (10 points)
2) Lead without leash ( 10 points)
3) Passage in one group of persons ( 10 points)
4) Sit - Down - at foot ( one step front of handler) (10 points)
5) Bark fron dit position in front of handler ( 10 points)
6) Stay in motion with callback (10 points)
8) low beam ( one direction) (10 points)
9) Go ahead ( min 15 min) ( 10 points)
10) Free down with hidden handler ( 10 points)

Total: max 100 points, min. 70 points

III. Defense
1) Search in the land ( 30X40 steps, 4 hidden places) (10 points)
2) Helpler signalling barking ( 10 points)
3) Unexpected handler attack (blow stage) (30 points)
4) Catch (30m) (50 points)
Total: Max.100, min. 10 points

TOTAL ( track, obedience, defence) Max. 300 points, min 210 points


ZVP1 - test of dog resistance

For the participation isn't needed any other title, for pass the dog with handler must make the distance of 40km fulfilling the conditions demanded in the time limit of 4 hours.

Valutation
-Until the time 3 hours and 20 minuts is classificated as "Excelent".
-After the time of 3 hours and 20 minuts and until 3 hours and 40 minuts is classificated as "Very good".
-After the time of 3 hours and 40 minuts and until 4 hours is classificated as "good".

After 4 hours from the start of the last participant the judge declare ended the test.
The judge can stop the participant who cleary won't end the test in the estabilished limit.

The ZVP track must fulfill the following conditions:
1) minimal 2/3 of the distance must be on natural land ( grass, path in florest or between the fields ( of beat earth))
2) The start and the end must be on the same point and the legth must be the preset.

The track shape:
a) The circular distance must be long at least 5km
b) The right distance must be long at least 10 km

Check points:
They're preset, where the assistants note the achieved time in the passage of every participant in it's card.
The number of check points depends on the shape and condition of the track, they aways must be in the curve, in locals wich the participand can "cut" distance is needed put other check point, according to the need.
The maximum distance between the chack points can be 10 km, after 10 km water must be available for the dogs.

ZVP2 - Test of dog resistence 2º degree
For the participation is needed the title ZVP1, for pass the dog with handler must make the distance of 70km fulfilling the conditions demanded in the time limit of 7 hours.

Valutation
-Until the time 5 hours and 50 minuts is classificated as "Excelent".
-After the time of 5 hours and 50 minuts and until 6 hours and 40 minuts is classificated as "Very good".
-After the time of 6 hours and 20 minuts and until 7 hours is classificated as "good".

After 7 hours from the start of the last participant the judge declare ended the test.
The judge can stop the participant who cleary won't end the test in the estabilished limit.

The ZVP track must fulfill the following conditions:
1) minimal 2/3 of the distance must be on natural land ( grass, path in florest or between the fields ( of beat earth))
2) The start and the end must be on the same point and the legth must be the preset.

The track shape:
a) The circular distance must be long at least 10km
b) The right distance must be long at least 10 km

Check points:
They're preset, where the assistants note the achieved time in the passage of every participant in it's card.
The number of check points depends on the shape and condition of the track, they aways must be in the curve, in locals wich the participand can "cut" distance is needed put other check point, according to the need.
The maximum distance between the chack points can be 15 km, after max 15 km water must be available for the dogs.

ZVP3 - Test of dog resistence 3º degree

For the participation is needed the title ZVP2, for pass the dog with handler must make the distance of 100km fulfilling the conditions demanded in the time limit of 10 hours.

Valutation
-Until the time 8 hours and 20 minuts is classificated as "Excelent".
-After the time of 8 hours and 20 minuts and until 9 hours and 10 minuts is classificated as "Very good".
-After the time of 9 hours and 10 minuts and until 10 hours is classificated as "good".

After 10 hours from the start of the last participant the judge declare ended the test.
The judge can stop the participant who cleary won't end the test in the estabilished limit.

The ZVP track must fulfill the following conditions:
1) minimal 2/3 of the distance must be on natural land ( grass, path in florest or between the fields ( of beat earth))
2) The start and the end must be on the same point and the legth must be the preset.

The track shape:
a) The circular distance must be long at least 20km
b) The right distance must be long at least 20 km

Check points:
They're preset, where the assistants note the achieved time in the passage of every participant in it's card.
The number of check points depends on the shape and condition of the track, they aways must be in the curve, in locals wich the participand can "cut" distance is needed put other check point, according to the need.
The maximum distance between the chack points can be 15 km, after max 15 km water must be available for the dogs.

ZZP1 - Civil protection working test 1º degree

Obedience (minimal 70 points, maximum 100 points)
a) Horizontal jump with 150cm (pit or obstacle) - one direction (max. 10 points)
b) Vertical jump with 80cm, wicker obstacle - both directions (max.10 points)
c) Climbed obstacle with 180cm - both directions ( Max.10 points)
d) Climbed hig beam and down - both directions (max.10 points)
e) Horizontal scale - one direction (max.10 points)
f) Climbing scaled high beam with down - both directions (max.10 points)
g) Mobile bridge on barrels - one direction (max.10 points)
h) Mobile beam (Swinging) - one direction (max.10 points)
i) crawl in tube with 3mt 50cm diameter - one direction (max.10 points)
j) Go ahead for 30 steps (on big box, etc) - one direction (max.10 points)

Apecial exercices: Are mate two times (maximum 200 points minimum 140)
a) Searching person under ruins (max.40 points)
b) Signalling place where buried person was find (max.40 points)
c) Coordination in pair, discipline during the liberation (max.10 points)
d) Hurry and want for the dog job (max. 10 points)

-The land 50X100 steps can be in a predisposted local.
-The buried person in a hiding place at the land level or under it.
-On the land will have 10 objecs with the human smel for be one distraction.

Few questions about the working tests.
Only Czech and Slovak's judges can judge these working tests?
These working titles have something with the CzW breed? At test ZVP3 really isn't any dog breed who can do that, can be that lack informations for me but I never hear about other breed that no CZW with ZVP3, for GSD's have the AD (Ausdauerprüfung) which is resistence test, but is only 20km...

Practically yes, theoretically is possible for everybody, who satisfy the conditions.

No. Its czech and slovakian tests for all dogs generally.


ZVP are AD tests as well. Its very sorry, that slovakian club and some people in czech club as well pus the ZVP test like a "working test". ZVP is pure AD test (test of endurance), is hard (especially ZVP3) but nothing to do with work or working gens or working talent of dog.

BUT this test (only) cann say about good wolfdogs condition-wolfdogs mas have condition from long running.and...if wolfdogs not have good anatomy-he is not working dog :) latter cann testing hes working posibility.

Exactly!
Plus there are more ways to work a dog than IPO.

Ina

Its not true 100%.
First
ZVP dont testing the anathomy, but endurance only. I know minimally about 1 example, when CsW with HD D(3/3) make a run test on 80 km. But such dog cant be good working dog, because for him will be soon or later problem to e.g. jumpig.

Second
Testing of anatomy is not working test !!! When you understand it so, then is working test HD test as well or bonitation. Working test testing how the dog working. Ina is true, that is not only IPO. Is SchH, ZVV, TART, IRO etc. but all this tests testing really working talent and gens. Endurance must have dog by the highest working test as well (did you any seen dog after SPT2 test ?). Working tests just automatically testing the endurance of dogs. Am not against ZVP test, am only against, when such test is recognised as working test.

A good working dog must have an excelent body construction for work without problems.
Imagine a heavy and displasic dog searching for lost people in one mountain with deep florest, normally he not will work 1/4 of the others healty dogs, after some working time he will only turn in more one "victim" who will need help making the people who work lost the precious time.
Different for sport dogs who only will work in test and training.
Endurance isn't exactly a working test, but is too, endurance nor test the behaviour of the dog, but test the body capacity for the dog work, too important as behaviour in a real situation.
A yung displasic dog can of course run all this, this dog must have strong muscles for not fell the problem and run all this, but when we talk about working dogs, this displasic dog will have a really little utile working time life, different of a healty dog with perfect body construction ( for endurance) that will work without problems even have his 9 or 10 years (normally dogs stop work with 8 years old).
No one working test are perfect, all they have little defects who can leave pass problematic dogs, one good exemple are some schutzhund GSD's who are very beautifull at work but aren't capable to take a bandit if needed, because they only bite the sleeve and continue bite the sleeve even when the bandit run away, won't be different with endurance tests.

And I know a great lot of GSD that are great at SCHH for some years but not able to run 40 km and not able to do rescue work because of there body incapabillity. Most of them don´t get older than 8-9 years. And I know several CSW that would have the same problems all of them out of breeding lines that didn´t find the endurance runs necessary, it is only a question of time till the GSD selection methods will bring the same results.

Ina

All arguments only support, that ZVP is a great endurance test. Fact, that working dog need a endurance too (not only) is same true, like that grass is green. But as I wrote - working dog need not only endurance, but healthy hips, good nose, excellent teeth, healthy heart etc. But its no argument, that teeth test, EKG or HD test are the working tests !!! Working test means generally test, which testing the final possibility of using the dog by work. ZVP test says only one - dog have one of the 100 basic qualification to POSSIBLE TO BE a working dog. Nothing more. Howg :thinkerg

I agree with you, but...
Imagine, already have "show lines" and "working lines" in some breeds, supose that we classified AD and ZVP in one new class, the " Endurance class" will appear "breeders" breeding "endurance lines", how caotic will be!
Is better leave that as is now.:p

As long as there are countries that breed CSW for generations without endurance tests there are good reasons to keep it that way.

Ina

Hi
Nebulosa - could you please translate also ZZO exam for me?
Thanks for all the transtations - that's a great job done!
Thanx

Ops, I really forgoth the ZZO

ZZO - Licence of basic obedience
1.Minimal age 10 months
2.For the participation isn’t needed another title.
3.The commands mark on the regulament are:
Z = Acoustic
P = Manual
If the regulation mark the two, can be used one of then ( or acustic or manual) or the two ( acustic and manual)

Obedience:
a) Callback - ZP (max. 10 points)
b) Walk with leash - ZP (max.10 points)
c) Sit, down (at foot with leash) - ZP (max. 10 points)
d) Stay down in motion - ZP (max.10 points)
e) Retrieving ( handler's object) - ZP (max.10 points)
f) Stay down (15 fets) - ZP (max.10 points)
Maximum 60 points, minimal 42
ZP = Accustic / Manual

Special exercises
a) Callback in hard conditions - ZP
b) Dog's comportament in a group of persons - ZP
c) Dog's comportament when moore and leaves alone for little time - ZP

The judgement of Special exercises:

a) Callback in hard conditions
- quickly reaction at comand and back in right line for the handler, little imperfection at end - EXCELENT
- Second or third comand, back slow and not right - SUFFICIENT
- The dog not back after the tird comand - INSUFFICIENT

b) Dog's comportament in a group of persons
- The dog stay sit calm at foot of the handler, and as this stay at the arriving of other people - EXCELENT
- The dog in the arriving of another person be uneasy but turn calm at the handler's comand - SUFFICIENT
- The dog at the arriving of another person be uneasy showing fear or agressivity, for tranquilising need the repetion of the comand which the dog not react right - INSUFFICIENT

c) Dog's comportament when moore and leaves alone for little time
- The dog stay calm when meet the judge, after be leave alone the dog continue calm, not turn fearfull nor agressive when meet people or other dogs who pass close and stay observing - EXCELENT
- the dog be a little bit nervous when meet the judge, after be leave alone start bark all time, bark at the people who pass close without attack - SUFFICIENT
- The dog turn agressive wanting attack the judge, after be leave alone the dog turn a lot nervous, try attack the people and dogs who pass close - INSUFFICIENT

For obtain with sucess the Special exercices part the dog must get SUFFICIENT at least in two Special exercices in one of the three exercices the dog can get INSUFFICIENT .

Thanks a lot :bussi