you seem very sure of things Rona, for your information there where enough Pure bred czechoslovakian wolfdogs with FCI export pedigrees in the uk, to meet the uk kennel clubs requirements three years ago and seven of them belonged to your favorite Irishman ronnie.........
;-)

Following this way of thinking - I can shoot people on the streets. Oh, yeah I can. It happens everywhere, right? No one can point it out against me because others are doing so as well....
Well, I see Mr Winder had used this argument many times before, so he thinks that gives he right to cross. I prefer to compare myself with people better than me, not the worse ones...

Could you PLEASE use at least commas?... It is totally impossible to understand what you are writing...

But startingwith your first sentence - what CsW breeders in "my country" are making CsW/wolf hybrids? :lol: We would all be very interested to hear it.

you are very correct PATRYK and ronnie doesnt live to far from you my friend and he knows everyone in uk with wolfdogs and the people you have been contacting,,,,,,,,buy the way how do you like the uk? small world Patryk isnt it,,,,,,,

...........lol!!

yes, it's been done by others and it has also been similarly condemned by all lovers of the PUREBRED BREED called Czechoslovakian Vlcaks. perhaps you would care to look at the other threads on here in which others who cross breed have also been criticized? I suppose this 'breeder' has received like treatment.. is there something odd about that?


Even if Ambra at Arimminum was bred like that, it was still under the auspices of the Italian Kennel Club which did register her litters. And as they are the holders of the pedigrees of purebred dogs in Italy, if they say it's OK then by the rules of purebred breeding it is OK, whether or not you personally agree with it.

last i knew, Mr. Winder was banned for using foul, abusive language on the forum..

I see no provisions under FCI for breeding purebred dogs for the type of breeding Mr. Winder prefers?

they are not 'new bloodlines' and not helpful to the breed when the pedigrees will not be accepted and they are not authorized crossings. for whatever reason it was done, it was not done to support the futurity of Czechoslovakian Vlcaks.

What Are you actually trying to say? What the message is? World is small because you know my name?
I like UK very much thank you.

He uses commas (better saying, he overuses it), but in wrong place. :lol:

Now we have an veeery close friend of Ronnie, who knows so deeply his history and mind that arrived to the point of even write like him 8)

Sorry, but it must be a mistake. I have nothing to do with breeding nor abusing dogs! I have ONE female, who lives in our flat as a family member, and I have never bred, nor intended to... so I don't even know much about breeding regulations!

I'm afraid Mr Winder must have misinformed you, see the posts beneath:
I only politely asked for explanation:
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...2&postcount=29
Thanked for it:
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...7&postcount=38
supported Mr Winder against attacks of some French forum memebers:
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...6&postcount=52

and finally refused to be involved by Mr Winder in the "kennel war"
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showpos...&postcount=184

I've never called anybody a liar on this forum or any other!

Your surprised and I'm amused, well isn't this thread just full of emotion.

Only one with a weak or non existant counter argument, would respond with such...immaturity. I was warned that such would be the case, though I still find it disappointing that someone who claims experience, by their actions would to an outsider appear unable to argue against my words.

I'd expect that if someone was being accused of acting like they know it all, the accused would have written their statements as fact, not opinion. Which, as you should have noticed (though if you didn't, look again) I clearly state (more than once) that the written content is opinion,not fact.

Just my opinion of course.


Taz

Am I the only one who finds this a bit threatening?? I think Hedeon needs to take out a restraining order against these idiots :). Exactly the wrong type of people to be owning - and certainly breeding - CsV's, imo...

Watch it, you'll be next lol. But no seriously, it does come across as a bit...stalkerish. Again, that is jmo, you know just to make that absolutely clear.


Taz

I find it.... hmmm.... pathetic would be a polite word :lol:

No, you're not. Well, I will leave it with no comment. Just let it to speak for itself.

Hello James

Thankyou for the info on the way the breeder vetted you.

I am not in the market for a puppy as I have a 6 and half year old pure laid at my feet and hope that I have a good few years yet!


I dont mind your dots and dashes, I dont really think it matters in the whole scheme of things , I see many spelling mistakes etc from a few members but just think its because english is a second language to some and over look it. I put my spelling down to age and limited keyboard skills!
I sometimes do it myself as I am thinking and hit a few extra keys.

Your examples are totally inapropriate !! JUST MY OPINION....

I see this and think should I read on this is a terrible example!:roll:

he was blocked because he kicked up about this czech wolfdog being abused by top kennel as breeding machine, look it up, AMRA VLCI NADEJE or go to data base and find kennel ARIMMINUM 10 litters of pups producing 69 pups breed 3 times to same sire, first litter was born when bitch was just 1 year and 3 days old last litter bitch was 10 yrs and 5 mths old when she had last litter,,,, but this is not the only kennel breeding like this is it,,,, also in data base put in non fci, you get some non fci czech wolfdogs but the site has removed many many of the x bred ones,,,,,,ok for europe but not for uk,,,,,,,ok for european breeders to x breed, ok for european breeders to mix in wolf ,,,,,,,,,,,,in uk they cant and dont try to register the x breds in europe many back street breders do,,,,,Admin please put up all non fci wolfdogs for all to see,,,,,,Rona you and other condemed mr winder for his comments on the breeding practice of Arimminum kennels i have read old posts,but you did remove a lot didnt you,,,,,question to MIJKE can you give people of uk full list of all health defects found in this breed Czechoslovakian wolfdog, it would be nice to have them all,,,,,,,,

I feel responsible for my words and I have never ever removed ANY of my posts!!! Not to mention that not being a moderator I simply could not do it!

Neither have I ever approved breeding many litters from one female, and even once asked Edit (Crying Wolf) on the forum how it was formally possible for her to register 3 litters of the same bitch in 2 years. Not that I was satisfied with her relpy, but what can we do if Hungarian KC accepts such practices?
Nevertheless, I would never support such a kennel and buy a pup from them, though somebody told me, you(r beloved Ronnie) did so :( IMO an experienced and responisble breeder should research a kennel well before getting a dog, so lack of knowldege does not justify such a step.

I see you, just like Mr Winder, seem to have some obsession with me, but I could not have abused my female because I have never bred any pups, so leave me alone, please.

Younger forum members might not know, but when I first joined wd in 2004 I was really trying hard to help Mr Winder struggle with DEFRA - signed petitions, wrote several letters, even organized a small pressure group: my family an friends in the UK supported the case by e-mailing DEFRA! I also took and forwarded photos showing how "normal" dogs CSVs were etc. etc.

Believe me or not, but I was probably one of the most disppointed members of this forum when I found out that Mr Winder was mix-breeding CSVs with a wolf, thus IMO - abusing the breed! In my country, if a registered breeder is found to have done so, he's banned from breeding for good: his kennel is closed and he cannot ever become a National KC member and show his dogs in dog shows. 8)

And please don't tell me that breeders in other countries break the law or code of ethics - just like Hedeon mentioned - this is not a valid argument, because it does not give one any rights to do the same.

We all know that it's not truth, also I knew you would come back and try to use this excuse for explain why you was banned at that time, and that is exactly why I did this topic at Administration forum.

How you supposed she did that, if she clearly isn't Admin or an Moderator?
Uuhm... There is some kind of Daltonism which have exactly this effect, to mistake yellow and blue, have you ever think about visit an good ophthalmologist?!

It isn't ok in any country ruled by FCI. Haven't mr Winder, which lived long time in Europe to learn about wolfdogs and breeding (as you said), told you about that?

Mr. Winder contacted me personally on Facebook, telling I am wrong not to be happy about CsW/wolf hybrids in UK, because people in Europe do the same. I asked for names of dogs again, and Mr. Winder dissapeared :|
Anyway, I have an idea which Lithuanian bred dogs might look like wolf hybrids for unexperienced eye and this makes me really happy :D