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Ligerwolve2 19-01-2012 13:48

Oh nice! Alpines are lovely.

I found talking to the quaratine people directly really helpful to get a better understanding. I look at the last few years as a chance to really get a good understanding of the dogs, breeders, import ect .

That sounds like a great plan and Im sure the breeder you go to will really appreciate the effort as well as the chance to get to know you :)

Tatanka1094 31-01-2012 12:48

When a dog is in quarantine, where he is stationed?
I'll explain...for example if i live in a little city in the center of Australia, where the dog lived for the quarantine?

Shadowlands 31-01-2012 16:17

As far as I am aware, the dog would be quarantined in the kennels at the point of entry (if the flight landed in Melbourne, then Melbourne; if at Sydney, then the quarantine would be Sydney).

If anyone knows the official answer, it would be great to know :p

yukidomari 31-01-2012 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatanka1094 (Bericht 420948)
When a dog is in quarantine, where he is stationed?
I'll explain...for example if i live in a little city in the center of Australia, where the dog lived for the quarantine?

There are designated quarantine stations, around 4, I think, through Australia. Visitation is allowed. A while ago I helped a friend import a dog to Australia. I'll dig up the station list in a bit.

ETA: Ah, here you go: http://www.daff.gov.au/aqis/cat-dogs/accom it's about $100 to process the animal for intake, and then each day for a dog is $39.

Tatanka1094 04-02-2012 15:21

Thank you!

05-02-2012 01:45

Yeah. The Quarantine staff collect the dog at the airport apon arrival. You're not permitted to visit the dog at the airport either, even if you're on the same flight as your dog, you still have to let them collect your dog.

mickwright 16-06-2012 04:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolves (Bericht 416399)
Hi everyone,

It's been a while since there was any talk of Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs in Australia.

I read earlier that Sona Bognarova had moved to Australia and was looking at importing, but I can't see any updates on that. I also noticed Mick Wright's Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs, that are supposed to be mixes, they're still great, but I don't think he's selling any.

I've been considering importing, given I can't find anyone in Australia who appears to have any let alone be breeding. The only problem is, is that as of 2012, dogs have to be atleast 6 months before being imported to Australia. Most breeders don't seem keen on the idea of keeping them for that long.

Anybody have any infomation or updates on what's happening? Or has nothing changed since the last threads made about them in Australia.

-Thanks

hi there,

just a quick update...... only the male i have maybe a mix, the female is pure breed.

also puppies are on the way in the next few weeks.

Regards Mick.

16-06-2012 08:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickwright (Bericht 432514)
hi there,

just a quick update...... only the male i have maybe a mix, the female is pure breed.

also puppies are on the way in the next few weeks.

Regards Mick.

Puppies are on the way in the next few weeks? Are you selling them? Because I would love to buy one. My email is [email protected] if you'd like to email me.

Thanks,
Nick

michaelundinaeichhorn 16-06-2012 12:39

I am sorry but your Raven Spirit is for sure a mix.

Ina

tupacs2legs 16-06-2012 21:38

So you are breeding 'mutts' ? (Nothing wrong with mutts as long as people know that's what they are getting :) ):? I trust u are not representing them as csv?... Are they at least 'health tested'?

yukidomari 17-06-2012 08:56

Sad that mix breeding seems to be the 'method of breeding' in countries where CsV are not so easy to get.

Guess people don't really want a CsV or love the breed - simply they just want a 'wolfy looking mix'.

Sona_Bognarova 24-06-2012 15:51

Hi there,

an update from my side too - I haven't imported my dog yet and for few personal reasons it seems I will not import him in Australia. I am still planning to bring pure CSW here, sooner or later. As for importing, breeding and selling/buying CSW with unclear origin in Australia - it is matter of everyone's choice. So far, I haven't met ANYONE in Australia who would be really serious about importing pure CSW here. Because, if there was someone they would have done it already. I went through all authorities not only about importing but also about having them recognised by ANKC, it is quite complicated and costly, but POSSIBLE. If I knew someone here who really means it I would help and I believe there are breeders in Europe who would help too. But honestly, if there is such immediate interest to buy mix pups just to get something resembling CSW and presented as such, instead of importing one, hate me or not, Australia is not ready.

mickwright 25-06-2012 04:24

hi all,

feel like im caught between a rock and a hard place........

my partner (at the time) talked me into import the dogs, he is german and at the time we went to germany and i lived there for 6 months to minimize the quarantine time in australia which only ended up being 1 month at the quarantine station in sydney. (total quarantine time is 180 days with minimum 30 days at the quarantine station)

not long after we had our dogs he up and left Australia, leaving me with them.

regards mick.

michaelundinaeichhorn 25-06-2012 20:46

This might be the reason why you did import them but that can´t be the reason why you bred them.

Ina

Shadowlands 26-06-2012 09:37

I'm sorry to hear of your situation but, the like Ina, I'm not quite sure what this has to do with cross breeding of your dogs :?

Also, if you were intending to breed, why didn't you import a breeding pair - surely it would have been just as easy to import 2 as 1 purebred dog?

Alas, it sounds like the situation (and mentality of many) in Oz is just like that in the UK :cry:

03-07-2012 09:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowlands (Bericht 433226)
I'm sorry to hear of your situation but, the like Ina, I'm not quite sure what this has to do with cross breeding of your dogs :?

Also, if you were intending to breed, why didn't you import a breeding pair - surely it would have been just as easy to import 2 as 1 purebred dog?

Alas, it sounds like the situation (and mentality of many) in Oz is just like that in the UK :cry:

He did import a pair, and he is breeding from that pair. Please read the thread before posting and looking ignorant.

Rona 03-07-2012 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolves (Bericht 433806)
He did import a pair, and he is breeding from that pair. Please read the thread before posting and looking ignorant.

He did not import a breeding pair, but a breeding female and a probably mix-bred dog resembling a vlcak. Who knows what characteristics might such a mix carry in his genes?! Pink coat and brown nose of a saarlos? Extreme shyness of a wolfdog hybrid? Maybe deep chest and falling top line of a GSD?
Apparently this is not a breeding pair, but an "ersatz" of a breeding pair!

So please read the thread before posting and looking ignorant!

Quote:

But honestly, if there is such immediate interest to buy mix pups just to get something resembling CSW and presented as such, instead of importing one, hate me or not, Australia is not ready
You're right Sona: SOME Australians do not seem to understand that matching dogs has little to do with breeding!:(

Shadowlands 03-07-2012 16:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolves (Bericht 432515)

Originally Posted by mickwright http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/images/...s/viewpost.gif
hi there,

just a quick update...... only the male i have maybe a mix, the female is pure breed.

also puppies are on the way in the next few weeks.

Regards Mick.


Puppies are on the way in the next few weeks? Are you selling them? Because I would love to buy one. My email is [email protected] if you'd like to email me.

Thanks,
Nick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolves (Bericht 433806)
He did import a pair, and he is breeding from that pair. Please read the thread before posting and looking ignorant.

I was referring to what Mick himself said, that the male is likely not pure. I would have thought that after going to all that effort and expense to import a pair of dogs, that it would have been worth having a breeding pair of PURE CsVs. I'm afraid it is not I who is looking ignorant here :p

04-07-2012 08:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowlands (Bericht 433868)
I was referring to what Mick himself said, that the male is likely not pure. I would have thought that after going to all that effort and expense to import a pair of dogs, that it would have been worth having a breeding pair of PURE CsVs. I'm afraid it is not I who is looking ignorant here :p

Just go back and read. He thought the dogs were pure when he imported, it was only till he posted on this forum that he had people coming on saying they weren't pure, nor have any of these people posted proof of these dogs not being pure yet.

I created this thread to ask about any updates, not to have people come here go off topic, then start questioning other people. So far very few people have said anything constructive. If you don't have anything constructive to say, leave.

michaelundinaeichhorn 04-07-2012 09:06

He could easily avoid the problem if he would have informed himself. Even if he wouldn´t have come to know that Raven Spirit are mixes with White Shepherds, he would have get the information - and without much bothering - that they don´t have any official FCI pedigrees. There are several breeders in Germany and two clubs and the VDH you can ask. These puppies are NOT Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs and therefor useless for the breed in Australia.

Apart from this: This is an open forum, the title of this thread is Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs - Australia, not "Wolves´ accepted updates only" there is no off topic here.

As always I have to agree with Sona, Australia is not ready yet.

Ina


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