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wolfin 09-06-2008 19:53

hmmm:) i wrigth in this metod

1. dogs with SVP going to working class.
2. dogs with SVP cann have CACT
3. dogs with SVP cann have INT CH.

and 4 . SVP IS SPECIAL EXAM to CZECHOSLOWAKIAN WOLFDOGS

maybe this email help:
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Subject: To the attention of Mrs Daiva Rimaityte
Sender: Grazie Soravia <[email protected]>
Recipient: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: 18.04.2006 09:43

Dear Mrs Rimaityte,

The breed Czechoslovakian Wolfdog is indeed submitted to a working trial, - an endurance test of 40 KMs or the IPO 1 or the Schutzhund - are trials recognized for obtaining the title of international champion for this breed.

I hope that I have answered your question.

Yours sincerely
The FCI Secretariat
G.Soravia

for me and for me land (and others land who living wolfdogs) SVP is normal working exam from THIS breed.

Juniorwolf 09-06-2008 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfin (Bericht 142178)
hmmm:) i wrigth in this metod

1. dogs with SVP going to working class.
2. dogs with SVP cann have CACT
3. dogs with SVP cann have INT CH.

and 4 . SVP IS SPECIAL EXAM to CZECHOSLOWAKIAN WOLFDOGS

maybe this email help:
----------------------

Subject: To the attention of Mrs Daiva Rimaityte
Sender: Grazie Soravia <[email protected]>
Recipient: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: 18.04.2006 09:43

Dear Mrs Rimaityte,

The breed Czechoslovakian Wolfdog is indeed submitted to a working trial, - an endurance test of 40 KMs or the IPO 1 or the Schutzhund - are trials recognized for obtaining the title of international champion for this breed.

I hope that I have answered your question.

Yours sincerely
The FCI Secretariat
G.Soravia

for me and for me land (and others land who living wolfdogs) SVP is normal working exam from THIS breed.

Hi Daiva

Thanks a lot for info :)

Juniorwolf 12-06-2008 16:17

I just got this answer from FCI :

Dear Mister Larsen,

We inform you that we have contacted the Slovenska Kynologicka Jednota to
obtain more precisions in this regard.
We will contact you again as soon as we have received an answer.
In advance, we thank you for your understanding.

Yours sincerely,

VERBRUGGEN Géraldine
Tile Dpt
FCI

.....I will return with final answer ;-)

26-06-2008 09:16

Hi,
I received the same mail by FCI. Do you have receive an answer Rolf ?
SCC (Kennel club for France) have send me a mail where they said that SVP1 isn't recongnize for work exam. Im' waiting for FCI :cry:

wolfin 26-06-2008 09:38

but IF dog - wolfdog with SVP CANN have INT CH - i think SVP is working exam.

(INT CH cann have dogs only with work exams, and if cann this have :rock_3 ..... )

26-06-2008 10:04

Yes I'm agree with you, but France Kenel Club say that dog can't do INT CH with SVP1 because it'isnt a working exam. And FCI don't give an answer. France Kenel Club can't give you stud book because they don't recognize SVP1 !!! My dog Gabina has a stud book because she's birth in Czech Republik but for my french' dog, it's a problem, I can't to have stud book by France :evil:
It'is possible to buy Stud book in an another country ?

Juniorwolf 26-06-2008 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by pivoine (Bericht 144754)
Hi,
I received the same mail by FCI. Do you have receive an answer Rolf ?
SCC (Kennel club for France) have send me a mail where they said that SVP1 isn't recongnize for work exam. Im' waiting for FCI :cry:

Hi Pivoine,

No I did not get an answer yet from FCI, but as soon as I get an answer I will post it here in this thread ...as I promised ;-)

26-06-2008 10:22

thanks Rolf :cool3

wolfin 26-06-2008 10:25

Hej,
INT CH TAKE not Franc club or Lithuanian or Germany club BUT only FCI from Belgian :)

ant in this case french club not cann make :) INT CH is FCI titels :)

Hanka 26-06-2008 10:28

Eh Daiva, where you see "work" during this exam? I find and find and I can´t see it. Only running. And I think, all shy dogs can run. And some- very quickly:).
In Czech republic- SVP is not working exam and dogs with this exam can´t go to working class. It is right.

wolfin 26-06-2008 10:36

i know, only i say: INT CH you cann have with SVP.

Hanka 26-06-2008 10:38

OK, bye:):):)

Juniorwolf 26-06-2008 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanka (Bericht 144765)
Eh Daiva, where you see "work" during this exam? I find and find and I can´t see it. Only running. And I think, all shy dogs can run. And some- very quickly:).
In Czech republic- SVP is not working exam and dogs with this exam can´t go to working class. It is right.

well the question should be if FCI will see SVP as working-exam ?
FCI can only give title INT CH for dogs of this breed with working-exam(according to breed-standart) !
....so if dogs of this breed who have passed SVP can get INT CH, FCI have classified SVP as working-exam !

Please correct me if I am wrong ;)

26-06-2008 12:12

thanks for informations.
Yes Rolf, I understand that ; dog can be INT CH FCI if he has SVP1 in Slovakia. But my problem is why FCI don't say me if it's ok for that and and must waiting an confirmation in oder to sure.
And how to have stud book...

Juniorwolf 26-06-2008 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by pivoine (Bericht 144781)
thanks for informations.
Yes Rolf, I understand that ; dog can be INT CH FCI if he has SVP1 in Slovakia. But my problem is why FCI don't say me if it's ok for that and and must waiting an confirmation in oder to sure.
And how to have stud book...

I know some CSW`s have got titel INT CH from SVP(proove is earlier in this thread), but I did not get comfirmation from FCI my self yet ?
if FCI have reconized SVP for working-exam, then kennel clubs of each country must accept this ofcourse or make FCI change the rules ! ...or exclude themselves from FCI ?
in other words when FCI have given a CSW with passed SVP title INT CH in your country, your kennel club of your country must accept SVP as working-exam !
I dont know what is stud book ? ...pedigree, book of results for working or what ?

saschia 26-06-2008 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolf (Bericht 144784)
I dont know what is stud book ?

I think there is a misunderstanding here, stud book in my opinion means breed register of a country where the dog received its pedigree.

In some countries the results of shows, trials and competitions are not entered into the pedigree but to a booklet which comes with it (I don't know the name of this booklet). Also some trials require special booklet (when I did agility with my wolfdog cca 15 years ago it was like that for agility in Slovakia at least). I think pivoine means this.

26-06-2008 12:57

Ok, I waiting for FCI answer.
I thought that the stud book was a work book, but know :lol::lol::lol:, it's the number of pedigree, sorry for this mistake :oops:

26-06-2008 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by saschia (Bericht 144787)
I think there is a misunderstanding here, stud book in my opinion means breed register of a country where the dog received its pedigree.

In some countries the results of shows, trials and competitions are not entered into the pedigree but to a booklet which comes with it (I don't know the name of this booklet). Also some trials require special booklet (when I did agility with my wolfdog cca 15 years ago it was like that for agility in Slovakia at least). I think pivoine means this.

yes Sashcia and thanks, it's a mistake of me :oops:

Juniorwolf 26-06-2008 13:26

Thanks for explanation Saschia :)

I have 1 book for Czech exams and 2 different books for Danish exams, for Danish show results we only get a diploma and titles as DK CH will be addet to pedigree.....

24-07-2008 12:05

waooooooooo. I saw the results SVP1 the month of April! 2:03 for the winner ! Very great. I'm sorry, I'll ask a stupid question ... The dogs run or walk fast (to trot ?) ? Do they alternate running and trot ?. Thank you.


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