Stud fees - Page 2

Hanka · 09-11-2011, 09:02

Every owner of male can have "own" price of using of male. It can be 200 or 2000Euro and nobody MUST explain to somebody WHY he has this price. Is it high for you? It is easy: don´t use this male. If owner of male will see, nobody wants pay so much money, he will must change his price. Or- male will not have pups.
But I think, nobody here will explain WHY he wants this or this price.

Gaga · 09-11-2011, 10:37

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Originally Posted by *Satu

Twice

in one heat and one way is ower 1200km.... i don´t live in Helsinki

also male dosen´t live there where i stayed.

Why you don't use the insemination? many breeders (other breeds) use it for their comfort and minimize the risk of infection their female (and male too). We live in XXI century

Morian · 09-11-2011, 13:41

hanka, nobody talks about your trade secrets, don't worry

monita was curious, what is wrong?

Hanka · 09-11-2011, 13:47

Nothing is bad on her questions. But you attacked some owner of male and you wait some explaining from his...His male has "in owner´s eyes" some value. Why not? Why you critise him? He will not explain you, why he wants XY money. Yes, price really depends on his phantasy.

Morian · 09-11-2011, 13:49

i attacked? whom?
seems full moon is coming again

monita · 09-11-2011, 17:54

@hanka:
Hanka, I would like to know that if the male dog owners dare to say how much they do matings for. As you could read here, I'm just curious. My interests are that for example, a male living in Slovakia for a Slovakian will do matings for €400, but for me, a Hungarian, for €1000. What's the difference between us? I go to Slovakia for bonitation, to greater dog shows, unlike some other people, who don't dare. The male in my possession will do matings both for Hungarians and you, for example, for €200.
And how much you do matings for? - I'm just curious.
Nothing is too expensive for me if I see it's meaning. But I don't like discrimination.

Morian · 09-11-2011, 17:57

and maybe hanka which blamed me will quote my attack and name "him"?

or it will still look stupid

CDaniela · 09-11-2011, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaga

Why you don't use the insemination? many breeders (other breeds) use it for their comfort and minimize the risk of infection their female (and male too). We live in XXI century

I think that insemination isn´t ideal way.
Once I used this method, but no puppies were born. Estimated 100% female ovulation is the biggest problem.
Do you know some litter of csv, which originated from artificial insemination?

hekate · 09-11-2011, 21:42

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Originally Posted by CDaniela

Do you know some litter of csv, which originated from artificial insemination?

The litter of my dog Uruk Hai comes from an artificial insemination because his father Erik Nanook life in Canada.

michaelundinaeichhorn · 09-11-2011, 22:51

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Originally Posted by hekate

The litter of my dog Uruk Hai comes from an artificial insemination because his father Erik Nanook life in Canada.

No, Selma was mated in Vienna.
During the winter Erik Nanook lives in Austria.

Michael

*Satu · 09-11-2011, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaga

Why you don't use the insemination? many breeders (other breeds) use it for their comfort and minimize the risk of infection their female (and male too). We live in XXI century

Because i want to do it in natural way, my choice

hekate · 10-11-2011, 00:01

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

No, Selma was mated in Vienna.
During the winter Erik Nanook lives in Austria.

Michael

Ok sorry, so no I do not know litter from an artificial insemination.

Gaga · 10-11-2011, 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDaniela

I think that insemination isn´t ideal way.
Once I used this method, but no puppies were born. Estimated 100% female ovulation is the biggest problem.
Do you know some litter of csv, which originated from artificial insemination?

I know many dogs from other breeds, no csv. Some dogs are not in good condition (the health) so some breeders prefer insemination. Of course-it's personal choice. I asked because I understand the problem of a long way and money. And..some females don't want to be mated far from home, they are in big stress.

*Satu · 10-11-2011, 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaga

I know many dogs from other breeds, no csv. Some dogs are not in good condition (the health) so some breeders prefer insemination. Of course-it's personal choice. I asked because I understand the problem of a long way and money. And..some females don't want to be mated far from home, they are in big stress.

I don´t use females for breeding who have so big stress.

i know very many breeds who can´t mate in nature because every breeder use only insemination.

Nebulosa · 10-11-2011, 02:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDaniela

I think that insemination isn´t ideal way.
Once I used this method, but no puppies were born. Estimated 100% female ovulation is the biggest problem.
Do you know some litter of csv, which originated from artificial insemination?

Yes, so far I know the A litter of the kennel La Llamada del Lobo in Spain, came from one IA, if not deceive me with cooled semen.

michaelundinaeichhorn · 10-11-2011, 08:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Satu

I don´t use females for breeding who have so big stress.

i know very many breeds who can´t mate in nature because every breeder use only insemination.

I totally agree with that. There are many breeds with problems in natural mating. They normally use AI with those dogs. The results are more dogs with a massive lack in normal behavioural patterns.

Ina

CDaniela · 10-11-2011, 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Satu

I don´t use females for breeding who have so big stress.

i know very many breeds who can´t mate in nature because every breeder use only insemination.

Yes, It is true.
Insemination can be for female greater stress than the long journey.

Gaga · 10-11-2011, 09:31

But maybe, sometimes the IA it's a better choice than taking the worse male only because he lives near us

I don't want to say that everyone should use the IA, it's only a possibility...

*Satu · 10-11-2011, 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaga

But maybe, sometimes the IA it's a better choice than taking the worse male only because he lives near us

I don't want to say that everyone should use the IA, it's only a possibility...

Also in natural way, I can see male what i use, in live then i can be sure that male character is ok.
I didn´t cry that my mating trip was to long.

Male was great and i will see after 2 week my next litter.
I don´t make my choice of male or how long way i have.

Other detale was comming first.

Male doesn´t have to many litter´s. Type is ok. Healty results.
and every kennel doesn´t have same combination. Matador breeding doesn´t help at all.

Gaga · 10-11-2011, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Satu

Also in natural way, I can see male what i use, in live then i can be sure that male character is ok.
I didn´t cry that my mating trip was to long.

Male was great and i will see after 2 week my next litter.
I don´t make my choice of male or how long way i have.

Other detale was comming first.

Male doesn´t have to many litter´s. Type is ok. Healty results.
and every kennel doesn´t have same combination. Matador breeding doesn´t help at all.

Sorry Satu- I didn't write it against you. Not at all

It was only another point of view in discussion

09-11-2011, 13:41	#23
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09-11-2011, 09:02	#21
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	Every owner of male can have "own" price of using of male. It can be 200 or 2000Euro and nobody MUST explain to somebody WHY he has this price. Is it high for you? It is easy: don´t use this male. If owner of male will see, nobody wants pay so much money, he will must change his price. Or- male will not have pups. But I think, nobody here will explain WHY he wants this or this price.

09-11-2011, 13:47	#24
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	Nothing is bad on her questions. But you attacked some owner of male and you wait some explaining from his...His male has "in owner´s eyes" some value. Why not? Why you critise him? He will not explain you, why he wants XY money. Yes, price really depends on his phantasy.

09-11-2011, 17:54	#26
monita Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: 3121 Somoskőújfalu Somosi út 161. Posts: 37	@hanka: Hanka, I would like to know that if the male dog owners dare to say how much they do matings for. As you could read here, I'm just curious. My interests are that for example, a male living in Slovakia for a Slovakian will do matings for €400, but for me, a Hungarian, for €1000. What's the difference between us? I go to Slovakia for bonitation, to greater dog shows, unlike some other people, who don't dare. The male in my possession will do matings both for Hungarians and you, for example, for €200. And how much you do matings for? - I'm just curious. Nothing is too expensive for me if I see it's meaning. But I don't like discrimination.