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Old 10-07-2011, 14:59   #21
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Thanks Wolfin. It is a very good result for Doàn, and I did not get this result. I'm very proud of him
ha ha this I see in FB from french people - ah is this important - I proud too
p.s. in WW oficial results are this
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Chien-loup tchécoslovaque Classe INTERMEDIAIRE MALE Juge : M. HARSANYI Peter

20208 CRYING WOLF MIRAKLE DE LOUP BLANC - EXCELLENT
20209 DARK VON KONIGS-TERRY - EXCELLENT
20210 ECKLAN DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - EXCELLENT
20211 EE WABAN Z OREL OCHRANA - TRES BON
20212 EEL OW Z OREL OCHRANA - TRES BON
20213 ELBE DE L'ANGE GARDIEN DE FAUJUS - ABSENT
20214 EQUINOX DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - TRES BON
20215 EVER FOREVER DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE 4e EXCELLENT
20216 F'APACHE DES GARDIENS DE LA COUR 2e EXCELLENT
20217 GOLD LO SPIRITO DEL LUPO - TRES BON
20218 GOYA OLIM PALUS - EXCELLENT
20219 ZENITH OD UHOSTE 1er EXCELLENT CACS - CACIB

Chien-loup tchécoslovaque Classe OUVERTE MALE Juge : M. HARSANYI Peter

20220 BALTIK - BON
20221 BLUE JEAN DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE 4e EXCELLENT
20222 COYOTTE DU CENTER CLUB MOLOSS WOLF - EXCELLENT
20223 CRYING WOLF ROBIN HOOD - EXCELLENT
20224 DELCO DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - TRES BON
20225 DEVIL'GREY DE LA LOUVE BLANCHE - ABSENT
20226 DEYMON Z OREL OCHRANA - EXCELLENT
20227 DINOOKA DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE 3e EXCELLENT
20228 DOAN DES PLAINES DE L'EST 1er EXCELLENT RCACS
20229 DOUBAYH DE LA BLACKWOLFDOG 2e EXCELLENT
20230 DRAKKAR DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - ABSENT
20231 DREAM-SHAWAK DE LA LOUVE BLANCHE - EXCELLENT
20232 ELKRO - TRES BON
20233 ERAGON'KRAL DE LA LOUVE BLANCHE - ABSENT
20234 ERHANOS DE LA LOUVE BLANCHE - TRES BON
20235 ERON DU CLOS DES GUERRIERS - EXCELLENT
20236 ETHER YR LYCAN O MYRDHIN - EXCELLENT

Chien-loup tchécoslovaque Classe TRAVAIL MALE Juge : M. HARSANYI Peter

20237 BOSCO 3e EXCELLENT
20238 CRYING WOLF DYLAN 1er EXCELLENT
20239 CZAMBOR Z VLCIHO DUBU 2e EXCELLENT
Chien-loup tchécoslovaque Classe CHAMPION MALE Juge : M. HARSANYI Peter
20240 AARON DU CLOS DES GUERRIERS - EXCELLENT
20241 AMORE HIO SRDCERVAC - ABSENT
20242 ARAGORN 4e EXCELLENT
20243 ARIMMINUM BIG WAKAN WOLF 2e EXCELLENT
20244 AR'WAN DE LA MOLLYNIERE DE LO'SCALE - EXCELLENT
20245 CRYING WOLF WEST - EXCELLENT
20246 DOLFUS DES GARDIENS DE LA COUR 3e EXCELLENT
20247 DRYACK DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - EXCELLENT
20248 EZECHIELE OLIM PALUS 1er EXCELLENT RCACIB

Chien-loup tchécoslovaque Classe JEUNE MALE Juge : M. HARSANYI Peter

20249 BLANIK SKY NORSKY VLK 1er EXCELLENT Meilleur Jeune
20250 CENTUS GALICYJSKI WILK - TRES BON
20251 CHUCK RUNNING WOLF - TRES BON
20252 CRYING WOLF PHYRRUS - TRES BON
20253 FOREVER WOLF ARTIC HERO - ABSENT

Chien-loup tchécoslovaque Classe PUPPY MALE Juge : M. HARSANYI Peter

20254 FEANARO-KIBA DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - TRES PROMETTEUR

Chien-loup tchécoslovaque Classe NE CONCOURANT PAS MALE Juge : M. HARSANYI Peter

20255 Non présenté -
20256 Non présenté -

Chien-loup tchécoslovaque Classe INTERMEDIAIRE FEMELLES Juge : M. KARCHER Christian

20257 BEST AFRIKA TANA DEL LUPO - EXCELLENT
20258 CHANEL PASSO DEL LUPO 2e EXCELLENT RCACS
20259 CLAIR DE LUNE SRDCERVAE - EXCELLENT
20260 DIVA VON KONIGS-TERRY - TRES BON
20261 ELWEN DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - TRES BON
20262 EMY DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - EXCELLENT
20263 ERIA DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - EXCELLENT
20264 ESKA DU DOMAINE DES SEIGNEURS NOIRS - TRES BON
20265 EUREKA DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - EXCELLENT
20266 EVANE DU CLAN REYSEZNEC - EXCELLENT
20267 EYLANKA DE LA LOUVE BLANCHE - TRES BON
20268 EYOTA Z OREL OCHRANA - EXCELLENT
20269 EYWA DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - EXCELLENT
20270 FAUVE DU SANDERA CELESTE - ABSENT
20271 FIRST LADY DE L'ETANG DES CHALANDS - EXCELLENT
20272 GRACE OLIM PALUS 4e EXCELLENT
20273 GRADISCA OLIM PALUS 1er EXCELLENT CACS - CACIB Meilleur de Race
20274 JALISCA P'TITS LOUP D'AMOUR - EXCELLENT
20275 JESKA ELSI P'TITS LOUPS D'AMOUR - TRES BON
20276 Z'ESCILA LUPUS IBERICUS - ABSENT
20277 ZORAY LUPUS IBERICUS - BON

Chien-loup tchécoslovaque Classe OUVERTE FEMELLES Juge : M. KARCHER Christian

20278 AKASA ARQEVA - EXCELLENT
20279 ANECHKA DU CLOS DES GUERRIERS - EXCELLENT
20280 BE CRAZY SAFIRA - TRES BON
20281 CHAA'REY CHARUSHILA DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - EXCELLENT
20282 CHEPHE OUTLAWS HEAVEN 4e EXCELLENT
20283 DABELSKA ZENA DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE 3e EXCELLENT
20284 DAMASCA DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - EXCELLENT
20285 DAY'BE'C DE L'AME DES LOUPS - EXCELLENT
20286 D'CHENOA Z OREL OCHRANA 1er EXCELLENT
20287 D'EYDEN DE LA LOUVE BLANCHE - TRES BON
20288 DIWIOA Z OREL OCHRANA - EXCELLENT
20289 D'TALLULAH DE LA BLACKWOLFDOG COMPAGNIE - TRES BON
20290 EKLYPSE'ESCAPE DE LA LOUVE BLANCHE - EXCELLENT
20291 EYOTA DU CLOS DES GUERRIERS - EXCELLENT
20292 FOCHKA DU SANDERA CELESTE - TRES BON
20293 KAJIKA GIRIOS DVASIA - EXCELLENT
20294 LATANA Z PERONOWKI - EXCELLENT
20295 UTAH Z MOLU ES - TRES BON

Chien-loup tchécoslovaque Classe TRAVAIL FEMELLES Juge : M. KARCHER Christian

20296 ARIMMINUM KRIMHILDE - EXCELLENT

Chien-loup tchécoslovaque Classe CHAMPION FEMELLES Juge : M. KARCHER Christian

20297 ALJASKA SRDCERVAC - ABSENT
20298 ALUD - EXCELLENT
20299 BAKAL DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - EXCELLENT
20300 CHEYNA DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE 1er EXCELLENT RCACIB
20301 CHINOOK DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE 2e EXCELLENT
20302 CYRIANNE DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - EXCELLENT
20303 ELFEN DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE 4e EXCELLENT
20304 ESTHER OLIM PALUS 3e EXCELLENT

Chien-loup tchécoslovaque Classe JEUNE FEMELLES Juge : M. KARCHER Christian

20305 BUTTERFLY ARQEVA 1er EXCELLENT

Chien-loup tchécoslovaque Classe PUPPY FEMELLES Juge : M. KARCHER Christian

20306 ESHE VON KESCHLA - PROMETTEUR
20307 FEIVA DU DOMAINE DE LA COMBE NOIRE - TRES PROMETTEUR
20308 FURY DES GARDIENS DE LA COUR - TRES PROMETTEUR Meilleur Puppy
20309 INA VON KONIGS-TERRY - TRES PROMETTEUR

Chien-loup tchécoslovaque Classe VETERAN FEMELLES Juge : M. KARCHER Christian

20310 TYRANE DU CLOS DES DEUX SAPINS 1er EXCELLENT
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Old 11-07-2011, 13:26   #23
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Good morning to everybody
I’m Massimiliano and I’m owner of Zenith Od Úhoště and Arimminum Krimhilde.
I’m here today only to say thank you to all people that support us during the wonderful week-end of Paris finished with great victory of our Zenith and in particular we would like to say a big big thank you to Hanka (Od Úhoště Kennel) that gave us possibility to have our “friend” Zenith as “life partner”.

Thank you again to everybody.

P.S. Only for Lupis, … No time for losers / 'Cause we are the champions - of the world (by Queen)
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Old 11-07-2011, 17:15   #24
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Good morning to everybody
I’m Massimiliano and I’m owner of Zenith Od Úhoště and Arimminum Krimhilde.
I’m here today only to say thank you to all people that support us during the wonderful week-end of Paris finished with great victory of our Zenith and in particular we would like to say a big big thank you to Hanka (Od Úhoště Kennel) that gave us possibility to have our “friend” Zenith as “life partner”.

Thank you again to everybody.

P.S. Only for Lupis, … No time for losers / 'Cause we are the champions - of the world (by Queen)
Hello Massimiliano,
Congratulations again!!!
I'm really glad that I have been able to meet you and Zenith at the World Dog Show He's such a good and pretty boy I'm really glad for him, for you and for Hanka
Take care,
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Of course, she only have small defects according to the standard.

Gosh, please tell me it's not the same dog
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Old 11-07-2011, 17:52   #26
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Hi, congrats.
But with all respect, as long as the dogs weren't judged by a special judge and all the dogs from Slovakia,Czech Republic, Poland or Germany (and other countries of course) weren't there, these titles are worth nothing or little this event being considered the world dog show.
Sorry.
No envy, honestly. Just my humble opinion.

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Old 11-07-2011, 17:59   #27
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Originally posted by Michael:

"But with all respect, as long as the dogs weren't judged by a special judge and all the dogs from Slovakia,Czech Republic, Poland or Germany weren't there these titles are worth nothing or little.
Sorry.
No envy, honestly."

Yeah, I agree ! - and especially to that :

....as long as the dogs weren't judged by a special judge... !!!

But in spite of that - of course congratulations to all winners!

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Hi, congrats.
But with all respect, as long as the dogs weren't judged by a special judge and all the dogs from Slovakia,Czech Republic, Poland or Germany (and other countries of course) weren't there, these titles are worth nothing or little this event being considered the world dog show.
Sorry.
No envy, honestly. Just my humble opinion.

Michael
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Old 11-07-2011, 18:08   #29
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Hi, congrats.
But with all respect, as long as the dogs weren't judged by a special judge and all the dogs from Slovakia,Czech Republic, Poland or Germany (and other countries of course) weren't there, these titles are worth nothing or little this event being considered the world dog show.
Sorry.
No envy, honestly. Just my humble opinion.

Michael
Michael ciao,
an opinion it's an opinion and I respect that without any problem, you forgot only a little consideration, in the story of our wonderful race the 2nd world dog show with biggest number of Czechoslovakian Wolfdog booked. Not bad

Ciao
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Hello Massimiliano,
Congratulations again!!!
I'm really glad that I have been able to meet you and Zenith at the World Dog Show He's such a good and pretty boy I'm really glad for him, for you and for Hanka
Take care,
Stéphanie

Stéphanie ciao
we are glad to for the short but nice time we spent saturday on Paris.
Thank you again and ciao

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Of course, she only have small defects according to the standard.

Gosh, please tell me it's not the same dog

If only this was a joke..
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Old 11-07-2011, 19:02   #32
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As always there are people who agree with the results and people who have different opinion. The fact is: dog shows have their own rules and they are always a bit separated from the "real life". Everybody who show the dogs knows it. Of course there is a huge difference between World Dog Shows (were most of the judges are allrounders) and Speciality Dog Shows when the dogs are (should be) judged according the breed standard. But - shows are for fun!

We should be happy that the winners are purebreed Wolfdogs. And we should be happy for the owners of these dogs (even if the behaviour of the breeders is questionable). Enjoy the show!

Congratulation to the winners!
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so much envy?
we envy good czechoslovakian wolfdogs, not dogs

yes realy older dog show was moore interesing and moore correct, now winn good hendler, or ... who know who realy dog SHOW are only SHOW not moore ( i speak about this big show not speciality show)
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we envy good czechoslovakian wolfdogs, not dogs

yes realy older dog show was moore interesing and moore correct, now winn good hendler, or ... who know who realy dog SHOW are only SHOW not moore ( i speak about this big show not speciality show)
At first, thank you to said me that I'm a good handler (Now I'm sure you never saw me before), but sorry I don't accept absolutely when you said "who know who".
I'm the happy owner of a dog thats know nobody and that is simply really proud of results I obtain with my two dogs when for fun I make show, working trials and so on.

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At first, thank you to said me that I'm a good handler (Now I'm sure you never saw me before), but sorry I don't accept absolutely when you said "who know who".
I'm the happy owner of a dog thats know nobody and that is simply really proud of results I obtain with my two dogs when for fun I make show, working trials and so on.

Massimiliano
Hi I not speak about you like a hendler and not only about your dog- in this show was moore dogs not only yours. Not think - world not runn only about your dog
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a fault in the results: ZORAY LUPUS IBERICUS she got 3º EXCELENT
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The result does not bother me because I expected more from THE JUDGES.
IN A WORLD DOG SHOW ALWAYS HAVE TO BE JUDGES SPECIALISTS
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Originally posted by alberto_cepedano :

"The result does not bother me because I expected more from THE JUDGES.
IN A WORLD DOG SHOW ALWAYS HAVE TO BE JUDGES SPECIALISTS"

Yes, exactly ! That´s what Michael already wrote some postings before and me and Morian expressly agreed to him - It SHOULD be naturally for such a show, no question...

But, as you see - it is NOT.

It´s sad and Michael is very right with his opinion that these titles are worth nothing or little because of this.

No doubt about it.

Nevertheless I congratulate you , Alberto , for getting an excellent and 3rd. place for your very fine bitch Zoray !

Best greetings to Espana sends

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I think for many of us living outside the original countries, especially further than Germany or Poland, have little or no access to specialized judges. So, really none of our titles mean anything. I will not get into the number of times a judge has said "Oh, your dog is so beautiful - but I wish his eyes were darker - and his chest, maybe it will get wider one day..."

But...

The more our breed is exposed in and to the world, the more judges will, hopefully, take interest in our little breed. Hopefully knowledge and research about the standard and typical CSV will take root from that interest. Shows like the world show, or showing (for now!) in the US or Brazil or Thailand or Spain, maybe we are at a "younger" stage, with a slightly different motivation...I like Admin's response - much as it would be nice to see a specialized judge at the huge world show, a show is a show, and just that. I'm happy breeders and owners of the winners are able to enjoy a nice accomplishment - and hope breeding decisions of the future continue to look to attributes in dogs besides winning shows.
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I think Admin mas make two or 3 themas one about this are CSV or not others about WW in Paris and next .. I dont know - fighting club or what
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