Mixes: Passo del lupo (Italy)

[Martab]

Dear Admin,
I just saw that my dog is marked with this "bottom like" symbol: (_ ! _ ):

http://www.wolfdog.org/site/it/dbase/d/11223#

Now, I understand that you do what you want with database, that you have problems with many Italian and foreign breeders, BUT
- my dog's mother is Iska Passo del Lupo (Miky x Fendy), which is not (_ ! _) as many other non (_ ! _ ) sons/daughters;
- my dog's dad is Will ( Upstream x Grey Wolf), which is not (_ ! _) as many other non (_ ! _) sons/daughters;
- my dog is an Italian Champion and therefore must have DNA test (Vetogene, official ENCI authorized laboratory):


I always sent to database all information about my dog, included DM results, FCI Dysplasia Certificates, Working Titles and championships documentation, litters information (never uploaded), Young and adult Bonitance results (never uploaded)....I believe that he is one of the most "controlled" and "tested" dogs with official results existing!

Moreover: Miky, Fendy, Grey Wolf and Upstream are in many other Italian and foreign Czechislovakian Wolfdogs pedigrees....if my dog is (_ ! _) I believe most of the breed is (_ ! _)!
Mine is only an example, but I see that many other pure breed dogs have this symbol ...please provide us with explanation, which cannot be different from: "sorry, mistake...."
I really hope so because if not it's all becoming ridiculous....

[Martab]

Originally Posted by Rona

Should owners of such marked dogs imposed pressure on the "suspicious" breeders and made them test the parents of the litters in question, the problem would probably be very quickly sorted out and the marks would hopefully disapear...

It could be an explanation, but it's not: in my case both parents of my dog, above, are Italian Champion and have both been tested, DNA is deposited (Iin ENCI database online both result tested with DNA deposited)...also most of grandfathers and grandmothers have DNA deposited.... but my dog is still (_!_) "bottom marked"!

There must be a mistake, this is the only answer possible

[Priska182]

Marta, Rona can be right, because all offspring from Will breed under Passo Del Lupo's Kennel are tag as (_!_) And it's the same for all offspring from Iska
But Even if the kennel is proved to have make mix with Saarloos I don't think it's really fair to tag all dogs from this kennel with the (_!_). Because everyone who will look at this dog will think that there is a bad thing with the tag dog
+ a "CzW-like mixes breeder" tag already exist for this same purpose...

You have all my support Marta

[yossifayer]

Non capisco niente!! Cani che avevano la scritta mix due settimane fa e - non per riproduzione - ora sono (_? _) senza la scritta mix
il mio cane e` segnato con (_! _) ma i suoi genitori e nonni non hanno questo simbolo (_! _). Io sono genetista e questo non e 'geneticamente corretto ne possibile!
Ora abbiamo la certezza che l`amministratore di wolfdog e` veramente professionale, ...complimenti!!!

I do not understand anything!!!!!! Dogs that had the words mix two weeks ago and - not for breeding - now are (_? _) without the written mix - not for breeding. `
my dog has (_! _) but his parents and grandparents without this symbol(_!_).
I am genetist and this is not 'genetically correct and possible!
Now i sure that the wolf dog administrator is very professional!!!!!

[Martab]

Admin, if you had time, in the last 10 days, for putting this "ass symbol" (_!_) on all the lines you wanted in the database, I think you can find 5 minutes for answering to all these people asking for an explanation, specially considered that they are the same people who helped you in updating the database.
You must have had a reason for doing it: share it with us because as you can easily understand having the dog "NO MORE suitable for breeding", without any logical reason, is defamatory

[leila]

as I can understand it, the admin put all this symbols to dogs, who come from breedings from mix-kennels, where are not standard pupps born - you can see the mixes in them and also theire parents... all crying wolf pupps born after 2004 are there and some french kennels... the reason is because of the "red" pupps", because of some tests, realy not csw standard look (i mean not with falust, but the "other wolf" look)... its because of the reason to stop inserting mixes into pure breed.
im sorry for all of the owners, who have such dogs and it ruins theire breeding. but on the other hand, I can understand, that this is a way (radical way), to show all the mixes... but I must write also, that this is showing on someone without any proof (in some cases)... I wish, all the breeders, who breed such dogs, made some tests (i mean the crying wolf, de la louve blanche,...) so there are no doupts anymore. the cooperation with breeders is the way... if they are pure, as they say, there is no problem (or should not be) to make some tests... and it will clear everything... just a test. if the costs are problem, I would say only one - you get so much money for selling such "pure and wolfy" pupps, that this price of test is nothing.