La Louve Blanche - kennel

[furyos]

y hector my name is frank.yu can see my new litter born the last 24 december(good date).the father and mother have hungrian origin and very very wolfship (if yu like this look);y have 10 pupps and the hungria breeder visit me to buy one because a lot of percentage of wolf.thename of father is cryingwolf merlin and mum cryingwolf ossa.(pics on the galery).my site is [censured] 3 pupp are free now if yu want/ my e mailis [censured] or meet yu soon.frank(sorry for my english)

[Nebulosa]

Originally Posted by furyos

y hector my name is frank.yu can see my new litter born the last 24 december(good date).the father and mother have hungrian origin and very very wolfship (if yu like this look);y have 10 pupps and the hungria breeder visit me to buy one because a lot of percentage of wolf.thename of father is cryingwolf merlin and mum cryingwolf ossa.(pics on the galery).my site is [censured] 3 pupp are free now if yu want/ my e mailis [censured] or meet yu soon.frank(sorry for my english)

Hi
Was your that make this announce?
http://animaux.vivastreet.fr/donne-v...tchecoslovaque

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by furyos

y hector my name is frank.yu can see my new litter born the last 24 december(good date).the father and mother have hungrian origin and very very wolfship (if yu like this look);y have 10 pupps and the hungria breeder visit me to buy one because a lot of percentage of wolf.thename of father is cryingwolf merlin and mum cryingwolf ossa.(pics on the galery).my site is [censured] 3 pupp are free now if yu want/ my e mailis [censured] or meet yu soon.frank(sorry for my english)

Hi, we speak Paul, the good breeddogs mas!! have minimum HD and ED test and good charakter, but Your dogs nor have minimum He not have HD test, and i good know, what character have dogs from Crying wolf kennel.
sorry but if i will buy puppys a NOT buy from Your kennel
see inform about parents
http://www.wolfdog.org/eng/litters/566.html
not HD test, not trainig, not tests...
to buy puppy from you it is the same that to buy cat in the pocket

[furyos]

hi.my dogs don t have perhaps reference on bonitation but my male take the metro and like people (child or human juge on ring touch him without problem)his caractere is exellent ask about french juge or stranger (tchek in orleansand pologne for paris dog show)don t do a jugment "unicamente" by register y do bonification this year and my dog have is tan(5/5)this summer.the female(ask edit molnar)is the best caracter she have and it s for that she come to france in plane to choose a pupp male ...yu know a lot of breeders who bye an pupp of his production?frank

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by furyos

hi.my dogs don t have perhaps reference on bonitation but my male take the metro and like people (child or human juge on ring touch him without problem)his caractere is exellent ask about french juge or stranger (tchek in orleansand pologne for paris dog show)don t do a jugment "unicamente" by register y do bonification this year and my dog have is tan(5/5)this summer.the female(ask edit molnar)is the best caracter she have and it s for that she come to france in plane to choose a pupp male ...yu know a lot of breeders who bye an pupp of his production?frank

sorry but character in dogs show is not this same character as in hause or in work I this know. i am judge FCI and very good this know.

1 question what big is yoir dogs and what bitch NOT have HD ray test?
if you will breed dogs MAS have HD ray test.

sorry but in this thime, you is NOT as breeder , you as biznes men.

[furyos]

hi...if yu look about merlin hd test is A(0/0) y do the test in france professor genevois(fci)and ossa have the same result in hungria but y wait the breeder with certificate...y can do the same exam in france but y believe the hungrian breeder...frank.(for work out exposition ...no problem too they used to walk in big cityaris /metro ;bus ;restaurant;supermarket etc etc.....and they re very social)do yu are so jalous about this new blood selection crying wolf?because yu do publicity for an other breeder? don t mind my wolfdogs have good references on expositions (see results) and they re breeding in very good conditions.......saludad.

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by furyos

hi...if yu look about merlin hd test is A(0/0) y do the test in france professor genevois(fci)and ossa have the same result in hungria but y wait the breeder with certificate...y can do the same exam in france but y believe the hungrian breeder...frank.(for work out exposition ...no problem too they used to walk in big cityaris /metro ;bus ;restaurant;supermarket etc etc.....and they re very social)do yu are so jalous about this new blood selection crying wolf?because yu do publicity for an other breeder? don t mind my wolfdogs have good references on expositions (see results) and they breeding in very good conditions.......saludad.

och, yet i have good your antswer , thanks.

and all best in live your dogs.

regards

[hanninadina]

Frank, I did look the video on your homepage. There is not the same Ossa like you announced on the french internet announce where we can see a wolfhybrid after my opinion. Or please tell us what kind of dog it is.

Greetings

Christian

[furyos]

hi...y can speak about that because when y take merlin crying wolf he have 2 years old and never see my kids /metro /paris city /show /camera..etc...and 2 months after little as little is feel more and more good and trust me....when y go to supermarket/theatre /movie ...now he wait me in the car and his varykennel ....if yu see him on video www.lalouveblanche.eu yu can see a friend of me with camera (friend never see ossa and merlin before )and yu can see no agressivity on my dogs just merlin say:"y don t know yu but what do yu do with camera ?y m not yur friend but y speak like my bloodorigine and keep my distance....my wife is near with my kids and y m in my house yu...the stranger..."y m perhaps crasy but merlin and ossa feel good because y m for them their eyes /hart/and chief of clan...ALL clt are so differents like human and don t like new situations but with a lot" work complicity" litle as litle we can do a lot of things ......frank.

[Nebulosa]

Originally Posted by furyos

ALL clt are so differents like human and don t like new situations but with a lot" work complicity" litle as litle we can do a lot of things ......frank.

Shy dogs not like but dogs with good caracter normally are very curious when in one new situation.

Paula

[furyos]

hi...y m french and it s my first litter with clt ....but my father is30 years ago breeder of siberian huskies (1970 his first husky )a lot of selection beautyshow and work and y know dogs and primitiv dogs(y have in 1988 my first saarloos and 3 in 1990)y wait 2004 to have a clt because more easy to citylife and vacations /car/etccccc.Well mr wolfin yu are juge and breeder and y think yur discussion not so objectiv ...yu speak like a lawyer and" god" yu don't have the SCIENCE OF ALL and y think yu can learn (everybody too)everyday........y see the kennel of edit and y go to hungria (3 days travel in car with snow) and y can say(y m not his lawyer)that her kennel is a good kennel....y like is selection and y wait 1 yaer to choose my kennel (y see yur dogs and the other europeen breeders)and just 2 is my favoriteasso del lupo and crying wolf....(y m subjectiv because y m human and sensitives reactions about dogs)y see yur kennel ...it look good and serious too(a lot of pics / pound /information ....ect ) but for me it s not essential because y want a very good wolfish and yur more dog look ( nice but not my style )yu say the first time that my kennel is not good reference (because merlin is hd A but yu dont see hd 's ossa)and now yu say if yu have one of couple hd A is ok for good breeder...(y don t thing ossa is E/F/G/H/I/.....Z)do yu do marketing ,because my first intervention on the english topic is "help me to find a pupp" and as soon as y give my name yu write crying wolf bad kennel and give a lot of negativ arguments ...it s too much mr wolfin/what do yu want ?every body say :YU ARE THE BEST??????y think yu have quality on this world but yu re not ALONE.have a nice day and good reflexions .frank(sorry for my english)

[wolfin]

yu do marketing ,because my first intervention on the english topic is "help me to find a pupp"

was this not marketing? someone is asking he need a pup and you tell you have litter. it is marketing and i do not know why the moderator do not remove your post. because marketing is not allowed here.

y like is selection and y wait 1 yaer to choose my kennel (y see yur dogs and the other europeen breeders)and just 2 is my favoriteasso del lupo and crying wolf....(y m subjectiv because y m human and sensitives reactions about dogs)y see yur kennel ...it look good and serious too(a lot of pics / pound /information ....ect ) but for me it s not essential because y want a very good wolfish and yur more dog look

how many dogs passo del lupo and crying wolf did you saw? maybe only photos? i saw more and i saw very nice but also very bad, small, with good charactere and shy. i know people who make professional photos where very bad dogs can look like wolves. you need good program and good photograf.

you have 2 favourite kennels. i am a judge and i do not preffer breeders but dogs. for me nice are not breeders but dogs - not dog from one or other kennel are nice but dog which are like is in standard. because as judge i do not judge kennels and owners but dogs.
you have very small contact with breed because i never heard about you and i never saw you or your dogs on big meetings. and i see you have no idea about the best dogs of this breed because it looks you do not know kennels which are important and known by this breed.

you like as massimo said - dogs from big kennels. you can do it. but i can say that it is well known best dogs come from small kennels because they have much better socialisation and much better charactere. i say about working dogs (FCI standart say :UTILIZATION:Working Dog.). if you want say something else please show me slovak and czech breeders which have many dogs.
do you know why CSW was made? if they are made to stay in kennel for whole life or to work and live with family and people?

next thing - i write about x-rays. and why it is important. do you want to tell that bad hips are not heritated? that it is not important if parents and grandparents have bad hips? or not checked? you want to say it?

i never saw you on dog show, summer camp or bonitation. you see only photos on internet. and you think you can say what is the best kennel, what are the best dogs? i say you know only little dogs and only from big kennels. but you have no idea about very good small kennels which have dogs with great charactere and good pedigrees. do you know kennel stin vlka? one female, pups gow up at home, are very good socialised, and later very good charactere. much better as most dogs from CW od passo del lupo which i saw. breeder have good contact with all owners - you can see it on the webpage. dogs from this kennel have good character, very good pedigrees - always different father - not mass production, very good character and breeder is also good person. for me it is good breeder. but you have no idea about such breeders. and it means you do not know best kennels. because they are small and it is hard to see dogs.
maybe i am wrong. if yes please could you write me best 3-4 kennels from every country? because if see you know only the biggest. and quality is something alse as quantity...

[furyos]

hi mr wolfin ...y don t try to do marketing but y show by my web site video a litter (don' t worry8pupp are reserved before y write 6 month before conception)but please can yu explain to me why yu put yur new gallery as soon as yu write with yur site and yur dogs? but don t worry y m not jalous but just see that ...moderator don't put yu out for that and y m glad to see yu here .... for my first litter y never say that tey re the best ...because the perfect dog doesn t EXIST ........all juge and breeders tell yu that........but y know the degree off sosialisation of my dogs and y note that allways yu say negativ words about crying wolf in this topic ......y never say that crying wolf or passo del lupo are the best but they re my favorite ....... FOR ME !!!!!! THAT S ALL !!!!!yu are always on camp for bonitation ? good !!!!!very GOOD things !!!! yu know a lot of breeders ? good !!!! VERY GOOD THINGS TOO....and what else ?do yu thing this act do for yu the BEST IN JUGMENT ? y say NO !!!!yu have yur opinion and y respect yur ideas BUT don t discredit the other people !!!!!! YU ARE NOT GOD!!!!!if one day y go in other country (but y never see yu too in france before) perhaps yu can see my merlin AND see his fine caracther ....AND he s a crying wolf....AND wolfish.... AND he is hd A/A ....AND parents are hd A(father)...AND hd B(mother)....AND a lot of french /nederland/polski/tchek(look on his gallery) juges like him and give him cacs and cacib...........BUT is not perfect because no dogs are perfect ....anything else .frank

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by furyos

....AND he s a crying wolf....AND wolfish.... AND he is hd A/A ....AND parents are hd A(father)...AND hd B(mother)....

i just asked why you breed dog without x-rays from parents without x-rays. nothing more. and you make bing bang. why?

Originally Posted by furyos

AND a lot of french /nederland/polski/tchek(look on his gallery) juges like him and give him cacs and cacib..........

my female made 35 dog shows. but for me important is only opinion of 5 judges. and i will go to 2 more to get their judgement.

for me count only description of experts and not from judges which sometimes never saw CSW

[furyos]

hi .no problem ...y write yu in mp ...frank

[Nebulosa]

Originally Posted by furyos

hi mr wolfin ...y don t try to do marketing but y show by my web site video a litter (don' t worry8pupp are reserved before y write 6 month before conception)but please can yu explain to me why yu put yur new gallery as soon as yu write with yur site and yur dogs? but don t worry y m not jalous but just see that ...moderator don't put yu out for that and y m glad to see yu here .... for my first litter y never say that tey re the best ...because the perfect dog doesn t EXIST ........all juge and breeders tell yu that........but y know the degree off sosialisation of my dogs and y note that allways yu say negativ words about crying wolf in this topic ......y never say that crying wolf or passo del lupo are the best but they re my favorite ....... FOR ME !!!!!! THAT S ALL !!!!!yu are always on camp for bonitation ? good !!!!!very GOOD things !!!! yu know a lot of breeders ? good !!!! VERY GOOD THINGS TOO....and what else ?do yu thing this act do for yu the BEST IN JUGMENT ? y say NO !!!!yu have yur opinion and y respect yur ideas BUT don t discredit the other people !!!!!! YU ARE NOT GOD!!!!!if one day y go in other country (but y never see yu too in france before) perhaps yu can see my merlin AND see his fine caracther ....AND he s a crying wolf....AND wolfish.... AND he is hd A/A ....AND parents are hd A(father)...AND hd B(mother)....AND a lot of french /nederland/polski/tchek(look on his gallery) juges like him and give him cacs and cacib...........BUT is not perfect because no dogs are perfect ....anything else .frank

If your pupies are reserve 6 months before the conception, why you have announce then in a internet site?!
http://animaux.vivastreet.fr/donne-v...tchecoslovaque
http://www.annonces-animalieres.com/...e__1955__.html
And why in some photos that now isn't there, you have put photos of wolfhybrids and wolves?!
If you have all yours pupies reserve 6 months before born, is a complet nonsence make all these announces in the Internet.
For show your Website, is only put it's link in some searching sites as google and others that it make show to all world for free your site...
Another question, incredible that I never see puppy's annouce comes from wolfin on internet ( and look that I search) as I have find yours, where is the marketing of she that you talk?! I think, she really no need it.
About the judgement, one judge that make is realy interessing in the breed, study, visit some exposition and meeting is better than one that only judge looking at standard without know really the breed, one breeder that is one judge too and take part in some meetings, show, bonitation and all that is important for the breed, isn't only a judge, but one specialist.
I not see too exactly "negative words" about Crying wolf, but one call of atention in negative points for the breed that already have made by Crying wolf ( and not only) as the cross of 2 dogs with displasy ( only A dogs haven't displasy) as you can see in these litters/dogs:
Litter B and C Crying wolf (HD: C X HD: C)
Litter G Crying wolf ( HD: B X HD: C)
Displasy is one problem that all breeders realy want far of his dog, and is one problem that fear all owners that still have live with one displasic dog, so, why cross 2 displasic dogs ( not A) ?
You can have the most beautifull dog in the world, the dog with the best behaviour, but he is noting if not have health ( and this isn't only for dogs, but for all live creature), because this, all this worry with one soo big problem as displasy is.

Greetings

Paula

[furyos]

hi nebulosa...if y put on free viva street annonce is clear :6 pupps are reserved by people and y have 10pupps for me and an other litter with a female of father breeding "au tenebre de la louve blanche" and merlin(mr arbouys christian )first thing (yu re colombo too here or just moderator?y respect yu but yu don t know me and please don' t juge me and my dogs ...y' m not "yur toy" and y have 42 years and responsable too)...for the other dog is not wolf but a wolfdog's friend ...and yu can see me with him in few time (new pictures arrives)what else nebulosa ?yu re lawyer too?y send private explications to wolfin in mp because y respect his opinion but only if respect people and their dogs ....anything else ....y think this is a discussion beetween him (or her because y just know is pseudo)AND me/and it s not yur problem...wolfin is older enought.....and yu are not his mother or grand mother.....(and yu don t have any crying wolf dog too)y know yu read all forum in wolfdog because yu re sure "passion victim " of dogs and wolfdogs but this evidence don' t give yu ALL POWERS....yu know this french (and sure universal )expression: "yur freedom start when the respect begun front of yu"....y have nothing negativ things about yu and y hope that discussion is closed....RESPECT IN ALL FORUM ......that' s all .....yur role is just moderator not "juge" or "private dedective" of people (and if yu don' t see more the other pics...just because french" fabrice tex "ask to me if y want (and y can) put off them "to the spirit of the race" ....yes this male is so nice and not my wolfdog(he have fci paper) and don' t do any show but sorry he have his place in my web site .........yu know that :POWER is dangerous (look politics people)and if yu have a role in this international forum keep yur jugment for yu and ONLY FOR YU .....yu re not the universal power ...yu re just HUMAN and try don' t forget it ....an other simple human but not simple mind or " simple lamb"(who say YES always to pleasure us)..... respect.frank.

[Nebulosa]

Originally Posted by furyos

hi nebulosa...if y put on free viva street annonce is clear :6 pupps are reserved by people and y have 10pupps for me and an other litter with a female of father breeding "au tenebre de la louve blanche" and merlin(mr arbouys christian )first thing (yu re colombo too here or just moderator?y respect yu but yu don t know me and please don' t juge me and my dogs ...y' m not "yur toy" and y have 42 years and responsable too)...for the other dog is not wolf but a wolfdog's friend ...and yu can see me with him in few time (new pictures arrives)what else nebulosa ?yu re lawyer too?y send private explications to wolfin in mp because y respect his opinion but only if respect people and their dogs ....anything else ....y think this is a discussion beetween him (or her because y just know is pseudo)AND me/and it s not yur problem...wolfin is older enought.....and yu are not his mother or grand mother.....(and yu don t have any crying wolf dog too)y know yu read all forum in wolfdog because yu re sure "passion victim " of dogs and wolfdogs but this evidence don' t give yu ALL POWERS....yu know this french (and sure universal )expression: "yur freedom start when the respect begun front of yu"....y have nothing negativ things about yu and y hope that discussion is closed....RESPECT IN ALL FORUM ......that' s all .....yur role is just moderator not "juge" or "private dedective" of people (and if yu don' t see more the other pics...just because french" fabrice tex "ask to me if y want (and y can) put off them "to the spirit of the race" ....yes this male is so nice and not my wolfdog(he have fci paper) and don' t do any show but sorry he have his place in my web site .........yu know that :POWER is dangerous (look politics people)and if yu have a role in this international forum keep yur jugment for yu and ONLY FOR YU .....yu re not the universal power ...yu re just HUMAN and try don' t forget it ....an other simple human but not simple mind or " simple lamb"(who say YES always to pleasure us)..... respect.frank.

Ei ei ei
Where and when I have judge you here?!
You talk about respect, I still not have see nobody here lack respect with each other, as I not lack raspect with you, I only question you about my curiosity, you reply if you want, nobody here think that is God, nor is a "lawyer", and the moderator of the english version is Przemek that nor was posted on this topic.
This was one public argue betwen you and Wolfin, who want can give it's own opinion about this, can agree or not agree for what are write here between your two, and was that I make, if you want a private arguing is only send a Particular Message (as you do), when you write here that's public and open for new opinions, commentaries for all users that understand or write english, you have to respect it.
I really not understand why all this drama....


Paula

[furyos]

[off topic]YOU never see cryingwolf dogs or visit hungria and yu speak just to speak ...this is what y dont like .[off topic]

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by wolfin

i just asked why you breed dog without x-rays from parents without x-rays. nothing more. and you make bing bang. why?

my female made 35 dog shows. but for me important is only opinion of 5 judges. and i will go to 2 more to get their judgement.

for me count only description of experts and not from judges which sometimes never saw CSW

i waiting

and can you say: wolfdog is a WORKING BREED or DECORATION breed?