CsW and dwarfism

mijke · 09-05-2009, 23:42

I hope someone can and will translate this topic!!
Or maybe you can use http://translate.google.com (and past the url of this topic)

Some info about dwarfism and the pituitary dwarfism test.

CsW pup and CsW dwarf pup

What is pituitary dwarfism:
Dwarfism is a horrible incurable disorder which you don’t wish to any dog. A dwarf has a badly developed pituitary , which means that certain hormones (such as growth hormones) are not produced. Due to the shortage of the production of the thyroid stimulating hormone, they have a slow functioning thyroid. Besides the fact that these dogs stay small, they are also haunted by various horrible side effects (e.g. baldness, itching, inflammations, malfunctioning of the liver and kidneys, slow behaviour) when they are not treated with medicines on a daily basis.

Saarlooswolfhond litter with dwarf

Recognising and existence of dwarfism in a breed:
Dwarfism is not always recognised by a breeder!!
Many dwarfs die in the uterus or die during the birth.
And moreover 90% of the living born dwarfs die in the first week.
Pups behind in growth are often not recognised as dwarfs. After (4 weeks or later) people see that a pup is different in comparison with the other pups. Dwarfism is known in the breeds German Shepherd, Karelische Bearsdog, Saarlooswolfhond and the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog.

The university of Utrecht did validate the pituitary dwarfism test for the CsW breed

And since April 2009 it also possible to test a CsW for pituitary dwarfism!

Unfortunately also in CsW breed several dwarfs (from several lines) are known.

And when 1% is dwarf in a population, 18 % will be carrier of this mutated gen!
And the number of carriers in practice is often much higher than thought

CsW litter with 2 dwarfs

But as of now there is no need that more CsW dwarfs will be born!

Because of a simple test can be established if a dog is carrier of this mutated gene.

And not any dog has to be out of breeding program when he/she is carrier.
The only thing is not to make any crossings between carrier x carrier!(of this mutated gen)

Therefore it makes sense to test as much as possible CsW's to see how this mutation in the breed is spread.
And to prevent another CsW dwarf will be ever born, you have to test all CsW's that will be used for breeding!

SWH dwarfpup

How an owner can test his CsW for pituitary dwarfism:

Because not all vets will know the test, it can be useful to give them a copy of the article of dr. H. Kooistra en drs. A. Voorbij: Pituitary dwarfism in German shepherd dogs and Saarloos wolfhounds -Availability of a genetic test-
Here you can download this document as pdf file **

A form blood sample is here to download as pdf file ** .

** A pdf file is to open with program Acrobat Reader. You can download this program for free for example Here

The owner can fill in all the info about himself and the dog in the form: ”Blood DNA research Pituitary Dwarfism” and sign it.
Then the owner can go to his own veterinarian with his CsW, the form the pedigree and a copy of the pedigree.
The vet has to check the chip number, fill in the info and has to sign the form.
Then he can collect 4ml EDTA blood sample.

The 4 ml blood sample (collected in an EDTA containing tube) can together with the signed form and the copy of the pedigree send by the veterinarian to:

Dr. H.S. Kooistra
Department of Clinical Sciences of Companion Animals
Faculty of Veterinary Medicine, Utrecht University
Yalelaan 108
3584 CM Utrecht
The Netherlands

CsW dwarfpup

After the test the university will send a bill to the owner
The costs of this genetic test is Euro 100 (excl. VAT).
When the university has received the paying of the owner, they will send him the test result.
When the dog is free of dwarfism gen, the owner also receives an official certificate.

SWH dwarf and GSD dwarf

Last up-date:

8 CsW’s were already tested. (7 from Holland and 1 of Belgium)
From these CsW’s are 6 free of this gen mutation.
And 2 CsW’s are carrier of the dwarfism gen.
One of them is from Dutch breeding line and the other was imported from CZ.

When I have received the copy’s of this results, I’ll publish all the info on wolfdog (with names of the dogs)

ste · 09-05-2009, 23:57

'azzo!!!!Ci mancavano anche i nani!!!

Bonfiglioli · 10-05-2009, 01:18

Anni fa avevo sentito di un caso anche in Italia....poi non so se ce ne sono stati altri.

Floydredcrow · 10-05-2009, 02:07

Ciao Mike! ti traduco il testo in Italiano
Grazie per queste informazioni che ci hai dato,
Sono cose molto delicate e interessanti aproffondire ,io non sapevo esistenza di queste cose per i cani ,è utile sapere per evitare questi problemi che potrebbero ritrovarsi i cani,poverini.

Ho provato a tradurre cosi..spero si vede bene
Ciao Francy

wolflinx · 10-05-2009, 12:04

in Italia credo 2 casi .

wanilagu · 10-05-2009, 18:14

Azz....costa un botto! (€ 120 x cane.....), ma penso di farlo, stò test....si sa mai!!!!!

Ok....cominciamo a far cassa!!!!
Grazie a Mijke per l'informazione e a Francesca per la traduzione!
Ci mancava pure il nanismo!!!!!!

mijke · 10-05-2009, 21:08

@ Francy: thanks for the translation

Sembra un costoso test

Ma ... quando i genitori sono stati testati
e ti chiede 25 € in più per cucciolo
il costo è di fretta!

Sorry for my bad translation in Italian language!

Floydredcrow · 10-05-2009, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by mijke

@ Francy: thanks for the translation

Sembra un costoso test

Ma ... quando i genitori sono stati testati
e ti chiede 25 € in più per cucciolo
il costo è di fretta!

Sorry for my bad translation in Italian language!

Di niente Mijke ,
Grazie a te per queste informazioni.

valentina · 11-05-2009, 08:58

interessante argomento, magari da approfondire

Martab · 11-05-2009, 09:49

..io ne ho visto uno povero piccolo, hanno un sacco di problemi fisici; non credo sia un problema che si presenta così raramente purtroppo, credo invece che come si diceva spesso si tratta di cuccioli che muoiono molto presto

il test mi sembra un'ottima idea

09-05-2009, 23:42	#1
mijke Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Warnsveld Posts: 2,033	CsW and dwarfism I hope someone can and will translate this topic!! Or maybe you can use http://translate.google.com (and past the url of this topic) Some info about dwarfism and the pituitary dwarfism test. CsW pup and CsW dwarf pup What is pituitary dwarfism: Dwarfism is a horrible incurable disorder which you don’t wish to any dog. A dwarf has a badly developed pituitary , which means that certain hormones (such as growth hormones) are not produced. Due to the shortage of the production of the thyroid stimulating hormone, they have a slow functioning thyroid. Besides the fact that these dogs stay small, they are also haunted by various horrible side effects (e.g. baldness, itching, inflammations, malfunctioning of the liver and kidneys, slow behaviour) when they are not treated with medicines on a daily basis. Saarlooswolfhond litter with dwarf Recognising and existence of dwarfism in a breed: Dwarfism is not always recognised by a breeder!! Many dwarfs die in the uterus or die during the birth. And moreover 90% of the living born dwarfs die in the first week. Pups behind in growth are often not recognised as dwarfs. After (4 weeks or later) people see that a pup is different in comparison with the other pups. Dwarfism is known in the breeds German Shepherd, Karelische Bearsdog, Saarlooswolfhond and the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog. The university of Utrecht did validate the pituitary dwarfism test for the CsW breed And since April 2009 it also possible to test a CsW for pituitary dwarfism! Unfortunately also in CsW breed several dwarfs (from several lines) are known. And when 1% is dwarf in a population, 18 % will be carrier of this mutated gen! And the number of carriers in practice is often much higher than thought CsW litter with 2 dwarfs But as of now there is no need that more CsW dwarfs will be born! Because of a simple test can be established if a dog is carrier of this mutated gene. And not any dog has to be out of breeding program when he/she is carrier. The only thing is not to make any crossings between carrier x carrier!(of this mutated gen) Therefore it makes sense to test as much as possible CsW's to see how this mutation in the breed is spread. And to prevent another CsW dwarf will be ever born, you have to test all CsW's that will be used for breeding! SWH dwarfpup How an owner can test his CsW for pituitary dwarfism: Because not all vets will know the test, it can be useful to give them a copy of the article of dr. H. Kooistra en drs. A. Voorbij: Pituitary dwarfism in German shepherd dogs and Saarloos wolfhounds -Availability of a genetic test- Here you can download this document as pdf file A form blood sample is here to download as pdf file . A pdf file is to open with program Acrobat Reader. You can download this program for free for example Here** The owner can fill in all the info about himself and the dog in the form: ”Blood DNA research Pituitary Dwarfism” and sign it. Then the owner can go to his own veterinarian with his CsW, the form the pedigree and a copy of the pedigree. The vet has to check the chip number, fill in the info and has to sign the form. Then he can collect 4ml EDTA blood sample. The 4 ml blood sample (collected in an EDTA containing tube) can together with the signed form and the copy of the pedigree send by the veterinarian to: Dr. H.S. Kooistra Department of Clinical Sciences of Companion Animals Faculty of Veterinary Medicine, Utrecht University Yalelaan 108 3584 CM Utrecht The Netherlands CsW dwarfpup After the test the university will send a bill to the owner The costs of this genetic test is Euro 100 (excl. VAT). When the university has received the paying of the owner, they will send him the test result. When the dog is free of dwarfism gen, the owner also receives an official certificate. SWH dwarf and GSD dwarf Last up-date: 8 CsW’s were already tested. (7 from Holland and 1 of Belgium) From these CsW’s are 6 free of this gen mutation. And 2 CsW’s are carrier of the dwarfism gen. One of them is from Dutch breeding line and the other was imported from CZ. When I have received the copy’s of this results, I’ll publish all the info on wolfdog (with names of the dogs) __________________ Vriendelijke groeten, Mijke PS: I am not a moderator anymore!!

10-05-2009, 01:18	#3
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10-05-2009, 02:07	#4
Floydredcrow Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,136	Ciao Mike! ti traduco il testo in Italiano Grazie per queste informazioni che ci hai dato, Sono cose molto delicate e interessanti aproffondire ,io non sapevo esistenza di queste cose per i cani ,è utile sapere per evitare questi problemi che potrebbero ritrovarsi i cani,poverini. Ho provato a tradurre cosi..spero si vede bene Ciao Francy __________________ Francy e banda "Ma poi...bisogna vedere in quale mare di lacrime è nato un sorriso..."

10-05-2009, 12:04	#5
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10-05-2009, 18:14	#6
wanilagu wanilagu Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cicagna (GE) Posts: 1,988	Azz....costa un botto! (€ 120 x cane.....), ma penso di farlo, stò test....si sa mai!!!!! Ok....cominciamo a far cassa!!!! Grazie a Mijke per l'informazione e a Francesca per la traduzione! Ci mancava pure il nanismo!!!!!! __________________ Ross & Banda Ricorda: LORO sono animali, le bestie siamo NOI!!!!!

09-05-2009, 23:57	#2
ste wise and beautiful member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Genova Posts: 327	'azzo!!!!Ci mancavano anche i nani!!!

10-05-2009, 21:08	#7
mijke Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Warnsveld Posts: 2,033	@ Francy: thanks for the translation Sembra un costoso test Ma ... quando i genitori sono stati testati e ti chiede 25 € in più per cucciolo il costo è di fretta! Sorry for my bad translation in Italian language! __________________ Vriendelijke groeten, Mijke PS: I am not a moderator anymore!!

11-05-2009, 08:58	#9
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11-05-2009, 09:49	#10
Martab Distinguished Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Verona Posts: 4,419	..io ne ho visto uno povero piccolo, hanno un sacco di problemi fisici; non credo sia un problema che si presenta così raramente purtroppo, credo invece che come si diceva spesso si tratta di cuccioli che muoiono molto presto il test mi sembra un'ottima idea __________________ Marta & GlockArian