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06-01-2010, 14:37 | #41 | |
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Budu psát česky, protože ty rozumíš a ostatní toto číst nemusí a pro mě je dost obtížné psát anglicky. Carlos se mi svěřovat, že krytí konzultuje s tebou. Já jsem se dlouho bránila spojení Emba x Mio, protože na můj vkus jsou psi velmi příbuzní. Carlos mě po několikaměsíčním emailování nakonec přemluvil. Mám tady věc chápat tak, že Daiva byla prostředníkem? Ona Mia doporučila? Z jejich příspěvků mi připadá že s tímto spojením spíš nesouhlasila ... |
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06-01-2010, 14:53 | #42 | |
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Daniela in this case when carlos used Amore i not have interes, I help him with others male, not this. And I am glad for this. He make this who make. Have nice puppy but not very interesing pedigree, this is not good. But breeders is deferent, one wish have interesing dogs, others make this same pedigree variants. Daniela You have nice dog, nice litter but stop, not make for self martyrs. |
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06-01-2010, 15:04 | #43 | |
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Každý má na chov vlastní názor a své představy o odchovech, které budou presentovat jméno jeho chovatelské stanice. Jeho vizitkou budou výhry i prohry. no carlos mohl mit aj lepsy a zaujimavsy vrha - toto lze říct o každém spojení, o každém vrhu ... Štěňatům je několik měsíců a ty nemůžeš vědět, jestli by byl vrh po jiném psu lepší, nikdo to nemůže vědět. Carlos je majitel Emby a já Amore Mia, je jen naše věc (nás dvou) jestli tyto psy spojíme. |
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06-01-2010, 15:09 | #44 | |
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Yes, but You say this "Já jsem se dlouho bránila spojení Emba x Mio, protože na můj vkus jsou psi velmi příbuzní." and see self, cann make and better variant ( pedigree variant). I believe this be nice dog, like and others who have inbreed in Reolup dogs. p.s.and please writte english, I know maybe we better can speak in czech, but this is english forum. Last edited by wolfin; 06-01-2010 at 15:33. Reason: p.s. |
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06-01-2010, 15:19 | #45 | |
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The Spanish (and Portuguese) problem is that for many years both countries were "garbage can" for other breeders. The main "champion" lines there are made of the unsold puppies who nobody wanted to buy in Czech Republic and Slovakia (because of poor exterier or problematic lines (HD and other problems)). Whole litters of such "low value" puppies were send there and are the breeding base there. Now sice some years it is changing (thanks to the new owners/breeders there) but still you can see many dogs with really untypical heads and bodies - where the faults are very good "based" in the genetics. Only excellent dogs with strong "pedigrees" - not only because of the inbreed but also because of the exterier of the parents, grand parents, grend-grend-parents - can defeat the bad genes. And (small) inbreed can be useful in such case...
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06-01-2010, 15:35 | #46 | |
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The combination Emba x Amore was risk....not only inbreed to Grey Wolf z Molu Es!! I told this to Daniela and Carlos, too. I know ancestors of their pedigree better than you, sorry. But puppies are here and I wish them only healthy and strong imunne. system! Others isn ´t momentaly important. Margo, do you made some dwarf tests of your dogs?? Is time to make it especially Jolly´s line. And about HD is discus about nothing, if not exist ONE HD Vet. centrum for evalutions of CSWs. The differences are too big for any statistic! Monika
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06-01-2010, 15:57 | #47 |
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Yes, but I don´t like that you always emphasize averageness of Amore Mio. Why? His exterior is at least above standard (according to classification of prominent judges) and level of his offspring we will see in the future.
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Sorry Monika but the population in Spain and Portugal still try to recover after your "help" for this population some years ago... And believe me - the breeders there are NOT thankful for it... Quote:
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Oh, now you changing the strategy... Nice explanation for all breeders which HD-results are worser and much worser than average stats...
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06-01-2010, 16:03 | #49 | |
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In wolfdog.org we have a debate about dogs, breed plans and breed and normal, when people have others opinions and idea. Last edited by wolfin; 06-01-2010 at 16:07. Reason: p.s. |
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06-01-2010, 16:04 | #50 | |
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........and for everybody stay calm, please... The breeding of dogs is a gamble, always and for results we must to wait min. about 2 years??? and more, because some diseases and reproduction´s problems show as latter. Monika Note: For Margo, do you know something about genetic of dwarf?? I assume no. Do you saw results of CSWs for dwarf ?? And about HD??? I saying still same, I made confrontation of polish results with results of our MVDr. Sterc! You NO!
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06-01-2010, 16:27 | #51 | |
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It´s not important if is Amore Mio your favorite or not, because you´re not owner of Emba. And end. |
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06-01-2010, 16:34 | #52 |
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like child, tup, tup with foot. Yes, she is't my dog, like and Amore, and? I can say who I think and say. END, FIN, konec, like You say.
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06-01-2010, 16:44 | #53 |
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06-01-2010, 16:54 | #54 |
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You understand great and end this all. You have nice litter and moore time mas pass with they. And make moore foto pupps.
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06-01-2010, 18:19 | #55 |
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Originally posted by Margo:
Yes, it is inbreed. But I think not big enough to say Calros not to make this mating (especially that all other things were "in plus" for Amore )... The inbreed is not big and is made on Grey Wolf - nice and healthy dog. And I think in Spain inbreeded dogs with such pedigree can have high value for breeding. Expecially that basing on the photos the puppies will be really great, typical dogs in the future. Originally posted by CDaniela: Emba is Carlos female dog and for him was Amore Mio the best of all. It´s not important if is Amore Mio your favorite or not, because you´re not owner of Emba. And end. These two postings are exactly what i think about this mating too ! Of course i will put in here more pictures of "Zeus" in future. Best greetings to all from Germany |
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