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Old 01-12-2009, 15:20   #14
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When you breed dogs mainly you will depend of owners good will, that's why the breeders ever try to select maximaly as possible the owner.
If the good will of the owner dont be "such good" in the worst case you can use the law and rights for the contract be respected, that's why the contract exist.

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Originally Posted by btd
he will take pregnant bitch from owners who breeded her?
Good point, in this case the puppies will not have pedigree, as the papers must be signed in agreement with Sssmok and Krzyg because the co-ownership.
The owner will brake the contract, and the breeder will need to enter in the justice, there the contract will be really used.

The second option is sterilize the female puppies while they're still small, before go to the new owners house. To tell you the truth I agreed with this metod of early sterilization before, untill some dogs and cats early sterilized (included 2 of my cats here) start to show health problems that can be related with it after some age, without count sometimes the complet loose of sexual distinction for males, and extended growth for both.
He can put on contract the sterilization and even like it he wil depend of owners good will again.

No doubts, the best is select better as possible the owners because wanting or not, you will depend of his good will even for threat the dog properly.

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They want to have litter after Jabber - he has BOG, BOBs, and other trophies and Anarchia Ľalinok - she has nothing to be outstanding or just to be proud of.
Titles are only a nice way to have why go at dogshows, already makes a long time that titles don't select absolutely nothing in the breed, as have no meaning at all in quality question, but looking well be proud of a dog only because of titles its tipical of begginers which still dont know the truth behind dogshows and what's mean breed a dog breed, or of blind people wich still didn't awake for the truth, sometimes you can meet ill persons which wants of the dog everything he couldn't be in real , I really dont think Sssmok or Kryz have this kind of blindness, nd I hope i'm right.

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Anarchia doesn't have joints RTG so breeders make it but fails to have official results of RTG and when its time for mating they do it without results
I really dont know how many time in truth leave for make the results and have real answer about the HD and ED of the dog in Poland, but here for you get the official pappers its normaly over 1 year of waiting. So commonly the breeders make the X-rays with a gratuate veterinary from the radiology college, soon after the X rays this same vet can tell you one preliminary result of the hips of your dog, is very rare they make mistakes in this results, only after it you send the results to the college and wait 1 year for the official ... otherwise you will be able to mate your dog only after she have 3 years old


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Originally Posted by Krzyg
X-Ray of Anarchia has been taken before mating, but we didnt have formal opinion. Wet who took the picture convinced us that hips are ok. We made a mistake and belived him. Hi dont have right to make formal expertise so picture was send to other doctor. Before we got answer it was time for mating. Our wet was 100% sure that there will be no problem with hips. We decided to allow mating...
For what they explained it seems that was a pretty similar case, but in the first veterinary who made the evaluation make it wrong.

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Originally Posted by btd
He knows its this or witch hunt and burning :->
Dont you think its good? the world of this breed is very small as the breed situation is very fragile, is a good way to avoid huge problems for the breed futurely, as people get warned about whats happening and can work against a foreseen problem.
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