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draggar 24-08-2010 03:10

Hey Americans - be careful with your CsV's!!
 
http://www.thedogpress.com/SideEffec...0081_staff.asp

There are many other links to this story, just google "Frankfort Humane Society".

In a nutshell, a Shiba Inu was found wandering the streets near Frankfort, KY. AN officer brought her to the animal shelter where they instantly classified her as a coyote and had the officer release her to the wild.

Seriously? How the HELL can you confuse a shiba inu with a coyote? We've had Finnish spitz (very similar breed) and no one ever called them a coyote - some would think they're a fox (or some fox-dog-hybrid (even though that's impossible).

So, if a vlcak gets loose and an animal shelter gets them, I'm sure none would know what a vlcak is, let alone what one looks like would they just classify it as a wolf and instantly kill it or release it into the wild? Would they even check for a microchip?

Seriously, this is extremely frightening!!

yukidomari 24-08-2010 03:38

I read that weeks back and it doesn't really make sense. I grew up around Shibas and they don't look like foxes or coyotes, though the one in the article was kind of piebald so not very orange as most Shiba are.

Shiba are in the 20lb range.. what Coyote is 20lbs? :?

So strange..

rivals 24-08-2010 03:48

Yeah same here. Someone on another board I frequent posted it. Such a sad story, she was like 11-12 years old too :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by draggar (Bericht 320597)
So, if a vlcak gets loose and an animal shelter gets them, I'm sure none would know what a vlcak is, let alone what one looks like would they just classify it as a wolf and instantly kill it or release it into the wild? Would they even check for a microchip?

Sadly for now this is what I expect would happen. I have people come up to me on the street and ask if my Husky is a wolf. Not even hybrid or anything, multiple times people have asked if he's just wolf. I don't want to know what would happen to him if he got out and the person who ended up finding him thought he was a wolf, especially someone with the authority to decide whether or not he could stay at a shelter.

soniakanavle 24-08-2010 08:01

Ahhhhhhhh how can people be so stupid!?!?!?!
I can see someone who doesn't know ANYTHING about dogs MAYBE confusing one for a fox, but a coyote? And the Humane Society!!?? Oh my God this makes me so sad. Poor old Shiba I hope she makes it home safe. :(

Lot's of people thought my black and white Alaskan Husky was a coyote for some strange reason too and of course every other person I meet asks if my CsV is a wolf and/or a coyote. (Or a fox when he was a puppy!) I always have the same answer: "Uh.. No. He's a dog."

I'd be so scared if he got loose and ended up at a shelter though, I don't know what they'd do. I think different branches have different policy's for 'hybrid's' At the SPCA I worked at we scanned every single animal, no matter how feral or wild for a microchip so I feel safe for that at least. But basically I'll just never let him out of my sight!! :)

Silvester 24-08-2010 08:59

Nuts ???
 
This story proves again that human stupidness indeed is endless....:stupid

( If it´s really true - it´s hard for me to believe that someone can not see the difference between a shiba inu and a coyote.)

draggar 24-08-2010 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by yukidomari (Bericht 320598)
I read that weeks back and it doesn't really make sense. I grew up around Shibas and they don't look like foxes or coyotes, though the one in the article was kind of piebald so not very orange as most Shiba are.

Shiba are in the 20lb range.. what Coyote is 20lbs? :?

So strange..

Our Finnish spitz (and the breeder gets this, too) was often mistaken for a fox or some fox-hybrid. But, they're far more plush than a shiba inu.

As for size, I think coyotes are generally in the 30-45 pound range, I can see a malinois being confused for one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivals (Bericht 320599)
Sadly for now this is what I expect would happen. I have people come up to me on the street and ask if my Husky is a wolf. Not even hybrid or anything, multiple times people have asked if he's just wolf. I don't want to know what would happen to him if he got out and the person who ended up finding him thought he was a wolf, especially someone with the authority to decide whether or not he could stay at a shelter.

All the more reason to call every shelter if you can if a dog does get loose, let them know the breed, if it's microchipped, etc.

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Originally Posted by soniakanavle (Bericht 320603)
I'd be so scared if he got loose and ended up at a shelter though, I don't know what they'd do. I think different branches have different policy's for 'hybrid's' At the SPCA I worked at we scanned every single animal, no matter how feral or wild for a microchip so I feel safe for that at least. But basically I'll just never let him out of my sight!! :)

It's good to know some shelters scan all animals but there are different scanners and if the shelter doesn't have the $$$ to buy the different scanners or the "all in one" scanner, they may not see the chip. Even if it's the same registry, they still may not see it (one animal was recently euthanized because they missed the microchip).

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Originally Posted by Silvester (Bericht 320607)
( If it´s really true - it´s hard for me to believe that someone can not see the difference between a shiba inu and a coyote.)

Just Google the shelter - just on the first page 4 or 5 links were to this story. Too many to be completely fabricated.

TipTop 24-08-2010 18:39

Isnt it better just let the dog wearing a confortable colar with a small indentifications tag? So if he get loose someone can contact owner by phone?:lol:

draggar 24-08-2010 18:47

All our dogs have collars with tags but they can fall off, get chewed off, etc..

TipTop 24-08-2010 19:06

All my dogs are microchiped, use a collar with tag, and even with this tag I hand write inside the collar my name and telephone for contact.

I am pretty sure that the collar they use is safe for them and almost impossible to fall of or loose.

Hope I never need to use any of those, but we never know...
Better safe than sorry.

draggar 24-08-2010 19:22

Yep, almost all of our animals are microchipped (except our two "side of the road cats" and our chickens / quail) but I'm wondering if the shelter thought it was a wild animal if they would even attempt to scan it?

There's no mention in any story if the dog was microchipped or if the shelter attemtped to scan for one.

yukidomari 24-08-2010 19:34

Our dogs don't wear collars indoors. There is a risk of getting it caught on fencing, choking, etc so they only wear collars when we are heading out. If they happened to somehow escape, they would not have any collars or tags on, unfortunately.

Ours are microchipped and I can only hope that somebody would scan for them. We have never had a dog escape or get lost, though.

Rona 24-08-2010 19:45

In places where our dog might be taken for a wolf, fox, coyot or whatever, she's wearing a silly shiny outfit and a red scarf. Nobody sane would take a dog 'dressed' like this for a wild animal! 8) Plus a chip + engraved tag with phone numbers, naturally.

Mikael 24-08-2010 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by soniakanavle (Bericht 320603)
Ahhhhhhhh how can people be so stupid!?!?!?!

How can people be this stupid :? >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1J5C1ichqU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww



The answer is, they are snaciremA :lol: :daysmile:lol:

Sorry, but sometimes you are just tooooooo funny :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ps, I know there are very smart Americans to ;-), Ds.

Very best regards / Mikael

draggar 25-08-2010 00:11

Mikael - that's nothing. Search Yahoo answers for when Russia invaded Georgia - do you know how many people thought Russia was invading the USA?

Back to the topic, the shelter could have someone who is trained with dogs and know how to recognize a domestic dog, or at least a BOOK or go to a website.

Silvester 25-08-2010 08:35

Hmmmm.... yeah, just like i already told yesterday - human stupidness is indeed endless !:stupido

Postscriptum : Thank you for your examples, Mikael !

Mikael 26-08-2010 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by draggar (Bericht 320795)
Mikael... when Russia invaded Georgia - do you know how many people thought Russia was invading the USA?

Nooo way :roflmao Do you have any link to it :lol:

I like this videos, they make me laugh even on a very bad day :lol:

Best regards / Mikael


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